Re: NHL season 2008-09

[Cynosure]

And with 3 minutes left, Malkin and Crosby on the ice.... sad...

 

And the Pens make fancy passes to make an 8-2 game a 9-2 game and get a hat trick.

[TruffleShuffle]

crazy comeback for the flyers tonight, 4 goals in the 3rd period and then won in a shootout.

 

and i must rant about the nhl officiating yet again. last week upshall got about the worst five minute boarding major penalty i've ever seen. tonight. one of our defensemen got boarded worse, got up and went after the guy who hit him, while another guy on the flyers ended up fighting the carolina guy. the result was 4 minutes for roughing on the guy who got boarded, while our second guy got 5 and 2 for instigation, while their guy only got 5 for fighting. so we ended up 2 men down (they scored) and then had another 3 minutes of power play (they scored again).

 

worst officiating in professional sports, easily.

[Cynosure]

crazy comeback for the flyers tonight, 4 goals in the 3rd period and then won in a shootout.

 

and i must rant about the nhl officiating yet again. last week upshall got about the worst five minute boarding major penalty i've ever seen. tonight. one of our defensemen got boarded worse, got up and went after the guy who hit him, while another guy on the flyers ended up fighting the carolina guy. the result was 4 minutes for roughing on the guy who got boarded, while our second guy got 5 and 2 for instigation, while their guy only got 5 for fighting. so we ended up 2 men down (they scored) and then had another 3 minutes of power play (they scored again).

 

worst officiating in professional sports, easily.

 

Kerry Fraser?

 

TERRIBLE night overall in the NHL tonight.

[TruffleShuffle]

crazy comeback for the flyers tonight, 4 goals in the 3rd period and then won in a shootout.

 

and i must rant about the nhl officiating yet again. last week upshall got about the worst five minute boarding major penalty i've ever seen. tonight. one of our defensemen got boarded worse, got up and went after the guy who hit him, while another guy on the flyers ended up fighting the carolina guy. the result was 4 minutes for roughing on the guy who got boarded, while our second guy got 5 and 2 for instigation, while their guy only got 5 for fighting. so we ended up 2 men down (they scored) and then had another 3 minutes of power play (they scored again).

 

worst officiating in professional sports, easily.

 

Kerry Fraser?

 

TERRIBLE night overall in the NHL tonight.

 

nah it was devorski and dwyer. i actually think fraser is pretty good. the worst are mccreary, mr. magoo (think he retired though), koharski and furlatt.

[TruffleShuffle]

oh the instigator rule has to go too. scott hartnell drilled rod brind'amour on a clean hit in the first period, one of the canes' players went after hartnell and fought him immediately after the hit - 5 each for fighting. arron asham went after the canes' player for boarding andrew alberts - instigation. wtf is the point of the rule if you're just going to be completely arbitrary in calling it?

 

i want to kick both the refs of last night's game in the balls, what horrible ineptitude.

[Cynosure]

oh the instigator rule has to go too. scott hartnell drilled rod brind'amour on a clean hit in the first period, one of the canes' players went after hartnell and fought him immediately after the hit - 5 each for fighting. arron asham went after the canes' player for boarding andrew alberts - instigation. wtf is the point of the rule if you're just going to be completely arbitrary in calling it?

 

i want to kick both the refs of last night's game in the balls, what horrible ineptitude.

 

Saw that... unbelievable.

[Cynosure]

Revisiting the running up the score issue that the Penguins had last night... what is your guys' stance on it?

 

Up 8-2 with 3 minutes left and making fancy passes and having Malkin on the ice and scoring?

[Drew Doughty]

Revisiting the running up the score issue that the Penguins had last night... what is your guys' stance on it?

 

Up 8-2 with 3 minutes left and making fancy passes and having Malkin on the ice and scoring?

 

 

crosby had 5:29 of ice-time in the third compared to 7:17 in the 2nd and 8:47 in the 1st. malkin had 6:04 compared to 7:11 and 7:30 in the first two periods. it sounds like therrien was just rolling 4 lines. if he plays his 4th line a lot i'm sure he'd be accused of trying to goon the islanders or some ridiculous thing, i don't think he can win here.

[Cynosure]

Revisiting the running up the score issue that the Penguins had last night... what is your guys' stance on it?

 

Up 8-2 with 3 minutes left and making fancy passes and having Malkin on the ice and scoring?

 

 

crosby had 5:29 of ice-time in the third compared to 7:17 in the 2nd and 8:47 in the 1st. malkin had 6:04 compared to 7:11 and 7:30 in the first two periods. it sounds like therrien was just rolling 4 lines. if he plays his 4th line a lot i'm sure he'd be accused of trying to goon the islanders or some ridiculous thing, i don't think he can win here.

 

Well it's good to respect the game both ways. I am not saying by any means to NOT shoot the puck. If you have an open shot take a 15 foot wrister/one timer... or rip slapshots from the blue line. But the way they scored their 9th goal irked me... a bunch of fancy passes just to cap a hat trick... yea everyone wants to get a hat trick (Dupuis) but I thought it was kind of classless.

 

Also thought it was classless after 10+ Pitt PPs Crosby is still crying to the refs... I am surprised no one made a run at him.

[Drew Doughty]

of course you thought it was classless. you hate crosby. if it was malkin or crosby going for a hat trick, they would've probably backed off. the pens were getting dupuis his first (and probably only) career hat trick. matt cooke and brooks orpik got the assists for christ's sake. you could probably not pick two lesser offensive players on the Pens.

 

and a bunch of fancy passes? are you kidding me? orpik cleared the puck out of his own zone and it turned into a 2-on-1. cooke made a cross-ice pass on a 2-on-1. dupuis made a deke on the goalie so he could get his first career hat trick. no one on the islanders is going to hold that against anyone.

 

yes, crosby whines. i don't think that's a revelation to anyone who has followed the sport since he entered the league. big deal.

[TruffleShuffle]

yes, crosby whines. i don't think that's a revelation to anyone who has followed the sport since he entered the league. big deal.

 

if he wants to be respected by his peers and by people who know the game well, he should cut it out. it doesn't really affect the game or how good he is, but it does affect how people view him.

[Drew Doughty]

yes, crosby whines. i don't think that's a revelation to anyone who has followed the sport since he entered the league. big deal.

 

if he wants to be respected by his peers and by people who know the game well, he should cut it out. it doesn't really affect the game or how good he is, but it does affect how people view him.

 

well clearly he's not about to stop. i'm pretty sure he doesn't care about the respect of others as he skates by them and picks up his 400th point of the season. everyone who "knows the game well" thinks he's a phenomenal player. that's not going to change because he cries to the refs. lots of great players did it a lot (forsberg springs to mind immediately as a diver and a whiner and no one thought less of him).

[TruffleShuffle]

yes, crosby whines. i don't think that's a revelation to anyone who has followed the sport since he entered the league. big deal.

 

if he wants to be respected by his peers and by people who know the game well, he should cut it out. it doesn't really affect the game or how good he is, but it does affect how people view him.

 

well clearly he's not about to stop. i'm pretty sure he doesn't care about the respect of others as he skates by them and picks up his 400th point of the season. everyone who "knows the game well" thinks he's a phenomenal player. that's not going to change because he cries to the refs. lots of great players did it a lot (forsberg springs to mind immediately as a diver and a whiner and no one thought less of him).

 

forsberg isn't regarded as an all-time great. crosby should try to carry himself in the way that they did. i'm hoping that as he matures (he's only 21, after all) that he'll quit diving and whining so much. he takes it past the point of gamesmanship.

[Drew Doughty]

yes, crosby whines. i don't think that's a revelation to anyone who has followed the sport since he entered the league. big deal.

 

if he wants to be respected by his peers and by people who know the game well, he should cut it out. it doesn't really affect the game or how good he is, but it does affect how people view him.

 

well clearly he's not about to stop. i'm pretty sure he doesn't care about the respect of others as he skates by them and picks up his 400th point of the season. everyone who "knows the game well" thinks he's a phenomenal player. that's not going to change because he cries to the refs. lots of great players did it a lot (forsberg springs to mind immediately as a diver and a whiner and no one thought less of him).

 

forsberg isn't regarded as an all-time great. crosby should try to carry himself in the way that they did. i'm hoping that as he matures (he's only 21, after all) that he'll quit diving and whining so much. he takes it past the point of gamesmanship.

 

forsberg was regarded as a top 3-5 player in the nhl when he was healthy up until probably the last season before the lockout. the only reason he isn't an all-time great is because of his health. regardless, he was an elite player that whined and dove and no one thought less of him. no one is going to look back in 30 years and say, "man crosby whined what an ass," they're going to say, "man crosby scored like 500 points that year he was really good." and like you say, he's only 21. he still has maturing and improving to do anyway, just following the natural course of player development.

 

as an aside, ovechkin whines and a dives a lot and no one says anything about him at all.

[sneakypower]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=2726800

Like Crosby, Gretzky was labeled a "whiner" and "diver" by some critics early in his legendary career. Maybe those slings and arrows are just part of the price you pay for greatness. Like Gretzky, Crosby eventually will silence those voices.

[Drew Doughty]

i knew i had heard that before but was too lazy to find the article.

[NewUserName]

there are plenty of players who are or were whiners and divers....I think what separates Crosby and Gretzky from guys like Messier and Forsberg is that Crosby and Gretzky avoid the dirty work all together. So when the whine and dive they come off as wimps to standard hockey fans

[Drew Doughty]

there are plenty of players who are or were whiners and divers....I think what separates Crosby and Gretzky from guys like Messier and Forsberg is that Crosby and Gretzky avoid the dirty work all together. So when the whine and dive they come off as wimps to standard hockey fans

 

crosby doesn't avoid the dirty work though. crosby is much more comparable to forsberg than he is to gretzky.

[TruffleShuffle]

as an aside, ovechkin whines and a dives a lot and no one says anything about him at all.

 

i've seen at least 20 flyers games against both teams, and it's no contest as to who whines/dives more. trust me, if ovechkin were anywhere close to as big a bitch as crosby i'd call him on it.

 

plus check out

, come on that is just embarrassing.

[Drew Doughty]

as an aside, ovechkin whines and a dives a lot and no one says anything about him at all.

 

i've seen at least 20 flyers games against both teams, and it's no contest as to who whines/dives more. trust me, if ovechkin were anywhere close to as big a bitch as crosby i'd call him on it.

 

plus check out

, come on that is just embarrassing.

 

i didn't say it was close, i just said that ovechkin does it (a lot, especially compared to others). he's one of my favorite players anyway, because i really don't care if a player whines about getting/not getting calls or dives or whatever. crosby will either realize it gets him nowhere and grow out of it or will never change because it doesn't really matter either way.

 

also lol @ the video. one of the related videos is sean avery's gold medal winning dive against the rags that i highly suggest as well.

[Cynosure]

as an aside, ovechkin whines and a dives a lot and no one says anything about him at all.

 

i've seen at least 20 flyers games against both teams, and it's no contest as to who whines/dives more. trust me, if ovechkin were anywhere close to as big a bitch as crosby i'd call him on it.

 

plus check out

, come on that is just embarrassing.

 

How many people got misconducts and suspensions there? That kind of travesty deserves the Pens a 10 minute PP 5 v 1.

[TruffleShuffle]

well we beat cindy and the pens yesterday, good stuff

[Cynosure]

well we beat cindy and the pens yesterday, good stuff

 

hilarious how hard crosbaby tried to cry, too... and the pens still got all the penalties they deserved.

[wekse]

crosby must have banged cynosure's ex or current woman....btw, you(cynosure) whine more about crosby whining than crosby whines during games....get over it, it's not going to change...and i may not be speaking for everyone but i'm sick of seeing a new post in the hockey threads and it's you whining about "crosbaby"

[sneakypower]

cindy crosbaby!

 

OMG that's hysterical!!!