138 pitches for Lincecum tonight

[bcl412]

I hope he stays healthy. He is my favorite pitcher, outside of Harden and Marmol, to watch.

[BigbadB]

He's thrown 127 or more pitches in 3 of his last 4 starts and 115 or more in 5 of his last 6. Isn't that a little obscene for a 24 year old phenom who alreayd has questionable mechanics?

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_verducci/07/01/lincecum0707/4.html

Chris Lincecum never needed a primer on biomechanics to know that the scouts who doubted his son were wrong. As ASMI -- with its proprietary measurements and motion-capture technology -- pushes pitching further toward quantitative analysis, an aviation parts worker with a backyard mound, a camcorder and an intuitive understanding of how his son's body moves through space traffics in simpler explanations. "I believe," Chris says, "in something called dangle."

 

Dangle is a term you surely will not find among ASMI's 42 measurements. Dangle refers to the looseness of a pitcher's arm action, the well-lubricated unhinging of the limbs and body, which helps explain why Chris regards Satchel Paige and Sandy Koufax, two hallowed flow pitchers, as the spiritual forefathers to Tim's mechanics. "He'll throw forever," Chris once posted on a blog, referring to his son, "and maintain his velocities and the best breaking ball since Sandy Koufax and the best fastball since Gibson and Feller."

 

Lincecum's father seems to think that Tim can pitch as much as he wants. With that in mind, Tim, his father, and those around them (Bochy/etc) are going under the assumption that they can pitch him for very high counts. Very unfortunate thinking imo ... time will tell, but they better be a bit more wary of the wear and tear that this is unnecessarily doing to him.

Given that Koufax's career was cut short with arm injuries...isn't he a bad pick as evidence that his son will "throw forever?"

 

Yeah, I kind of thought Koufax was a rather bad example.

[Gingerballs Lives]

He's thrown 127 or more pitches in 3 of his last 4 starts and 115 or more in 5 of his last 6. Isn't that a little obscene for a 24 year old phenom who alreayd has questionable mechanics?

138

127

92

132

 

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_verducci/07/01/lincecum0707/4.html

Chris Lincecum never needed a primer on biomechanics to know that the scouts who doubted his son were wrong. As ASMI -- with its proprietary measurements and motion-capture technology -- pushes pitching further toward quantitative analysis, an aviation parts worker with a backyard mound, a camcorder and an intuitive understanding of how his son's body moves through space traffics in simpler explanations. "I believe," Chris says, "in something called dangle."

 

Dangle is a term you surely will not find among ASMI's 42 measurements. Dangle refers to the looseness of a pitcher's arm action, the well-lubricated unhinging of the limbs and body, which helps explain why Chris regards Satchel Paige and Sandy Koufax, two hallowed flow pitchers, as the spiritual forefathers to Tim's mechanics. "He'll throw forever," Chris once posted on a blog, referring to his son, "and maintain his velocities and the best breaking ball since Sandy Koufax and the best fastball since Gibson and Feller."

 

Lincecum's father seems to think that Tim can pitch as much as he wants. With that in mind, Tim, his father, and those around them (Bochy/etc) are going under the assumption that they can pitch him for very high counts. Very unfortunate thinking imo ... time will tell, but they better be a bit more wary of the wear and tear that this is unnecessarily doing to him.

Given that Koufax's career was cut short with arm injuries...isn't he a bad pick as evidence that his son will "throw forever?"

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

Koufax retired early because of pain in his elbow.

[NewUserName]

I really enjoyed the SI article. At least it just wasnt someone say "back in the old days the pitchers were tougher, there wasnt no pitch counts..etc..etc..etc."

 

That being said I still think its a bad idea to over pitch a 24 yr old based on his fathers knowledge of the subject.

[Illini Iceman]

I really enjoyed the SI article. At least it just wasnt someone say "back in the old days the pitchers were tougher, there wasnt no pitch counts..etc..etc..etc."

 

That being said I still think its a bad idea to over pitch a 24 yr old based on his fathers knowledge of the subject.

 

I don't know enought about the subject to pretend to speak from any knowledge base on "dangle" and the rest of that, but I do know that it just seems like an unnecessary risk to let a guy throw 134 pitches in a blow out when your team is out of the pennant race just so he can get a complete game. There are at least 6 guys in the bullpen, the reason they are there is so you don't have to do that. Why tempt fate with one of your best assets just so you can say he finished the game. Complete games are a useless stat in this day and age in baseball. The only reason I could see you would want a pitcher to throw one is if it is close game and you feel, even at the end, he gives you a better chance to win than using anyone in your bullpen would.