The League Rankings Thread

[Mephistopheles]

I was going to make a thread about the 08 BA POTY being Matt Wieters, but realized that topic has been beaten to death. However, league top 20s will probably debut this week or next Monday.

 

I've sorta finalized my first one, the Sally.

 

1. Jason Heyward, RF - Rome, Atlanta

2. Madison Bumgarner, LHP - Augusta, San Francisco

3. Freddie Freeman, 1B - Rome, Atlanta

4. Jesus Montero, C - Charleston, New York Yankees

5. Michael Stanton, RF - Greensboro, Florida

6. Angel Villalona, 1B - Augusta, San Francisco

7. Jhoulys Chacin, RHP - Asheville, Colorado

8. Dominic Brown, CF - Lakewood, Philadelphia

9. Dellin Betances, RHP - Charleston, New York Yankees

10. Michael Burgess, RF - Hagerstown, Washington

11. Michael Taylor, RF - Lakewood, Philadelphia

12. Matt Dominguez, 3B - Greensboro, Florida

13. Cody Johnson, OF - Rome, Atlanta

14. Maikel Cleto, RHP - Savannah, New York Mets

15. Jeff Locke, LHP - Rome, Atlanta

16. Connor Graham, RHP - Asheville, Colorado

17. Austin Romine, C - Charleston, New York Yankees

18. Scott Moviel, RHP - Savannah, New York Mets

19. Cole Rohrbough, LHP - Rome, Atlanta

20. Nick Noonan, 2B - Augusta, San Francisco

[Guest]

Not gonna take a stab at the AZL? Jharmidy De Jesus has to be a lock for #1. It's a PTA trying to guess the Cubs on there but I guess Suarez will make it again and maybe Cerda and Watkins.

 

When Betances is #9 and Burgess #10, that's a pretty talented top 10.

 

I emailed BA asking when they'd start. Hopefully they respond soon, but I would guess next week.

[Guest]

I emailed BA asking when they'd start. Hopefully they respond soon, but I would guess next week.

 

They start next Monday with the AZL.

[Mephistopheles]

no thanks on the azl stab. ditto for gcl. though the nwl, appy, etc are alright. ill stick to fullseason.

[biittner77]

8. Dominic Brown, CF - Lakewood, Philadelphia

 

I saw him triple and double against Delmarva in the 1 game I went to this season. On the double he strayed too far past 2nd and was thrown out trying to get back. Anyway he looked pretty good in that small sample.

 

Out of curiosity, who would be the top Shorebirds player on this list? would they make the top 50? The O's do a lot of weird things with their farm system.

[Mephistopheles]

they had very little going for them prospect wise this year. i like Ryan Adams though, and have since he was drafted

[TruffleShuffle]

I was going to make a thread about the 08 BA POTY being Matt Wieters, but realized that topic has been beaten to death.

 

nah, beat away.

[Guest]

I figured we could toss the non-Cub league rankings in here. I'm sure a few of them will spark some discussion.

 

GCL Top 20:

 

1. Aaron Hicks, of, Twins

2. Kyle Skipworth, c, Marlins

3. Jefry Marte, 3b, Mets

4. Jason Knapp, rhp, Phillies

5. Michael Almanzar, 3b, Red Sox

6. Casey Kelly, ss/rhp, Red Sox

7. Sebastian Valle, c, Phillies

8. Zach Collier, of, Phillies

9. Jack McGeary, lhp, Nationals

10. Abner Abreu, 3b, Indians

11. Arodys Vizcaino, rhp, Yankees

12. Cesar Puello, of, Mets

13. Anthony Hewitt, 3b, Phillies

14. Esmailyn Gonzalez, ss, Nationals

15. L.J. Hoes, 2b, Orioles

16. Isaac Galloway, of, Marlins

17. Zeke Spruill, rhp, Braves

18. Destin Hood, of, Nationals

19. Derrik Gibson, 3b, Red Sox

20. Jarek Cunningham, 3b/ss, Pirates

 

I really liked Zach Collier and Isaac Galloway on draft day (I might have a local bias).

 

I know they said Casey Kelly was raw, but wow.

[Guest]

Appy League Top 20:

 

1. Tim Beckham, ss, Princeton Devil Rays

2. Wilmer Flores, ss, Kingsport Mets

3. Matt Moore, lhp, Princeton Devil Rays

4. Gabriel Noriega, ss, Pulaski Mariners

5. Mario Martinez, 3b, Pulaski Mariners

6. Randall Delgado, rhp, Danville Braves

7. Jordan Lyles, rhp, Greeneville Astros

8. Angel Morales, of, Elizabethton Twins

9. Albert Suarez, rhp, Princeton Devil Rays

10. Kelvin Herrera, rhp, Burlington Royals

11. Jon Gilmore, 3b, Danville Braves

12. Jay Austin, of, Greeneville Astros

13. Niko Vasquez, ss, Johnson City Cardinals

14. Craig Kimbrel, rhp, Danville Braves

15. Paul Clemens, rhp, Danville Braves

16. Gregory Infante, rhp, Bristol Sox

17. Sam Runion, rhp, Burlington Royals

18. Federico Hernandez, c, Greeneville Astros

19. Juan Silverio, ss, Bristol Sox

20. Fernando Cruz, 3b, Burlington Royals

 

Dominated by Latin American UDFA signings. The Mets' 2007 haul in Latin America looks incredible.

[Outshined_One]

Pioneer League

 

1. Wilin Rosario, c, Casper (Rockies)

2. Cutter Dykstra, of, Helena (Brewers)

3. Will Smith, lhp, Orem (Angels)

4. Devaris Gordon, ss, Ogden (Dodgers)

5. Luis Jimenez, 3b, Orem (Angels)

6. Delta Cleary, of, Casper (Rockies)

7. Bryan Shaw, rhp, Missoula (Diamondbacks)

8. Trevor Harden, rhp, Missoula (Diamondbacks)

9. Dexter Carter, rhp, Great Falls (White Sox)

10. Kyle Russell, of, Ogden (Dodgers)

11. Pedro Baez, 3b, Ogden (Dodgers)

12. Jose Perez, rhp, Orem (Angels)

13. Efrain Nieves, lhp, Helena (Brewers)

14. Rossmel Perez, c, Missoula (Diamondbacks)

15. Angel Castillo, of, Orem (Angels)

16. Wily Peralta, rhp, Helena (Brewers)

17. Erik Komatsu, of, Helena (Brewers)

18. Dan Hudson, rhp, Great Falls (White Sox)

19. Tony Delmonico, 2b, Ogden (Dodgers)

20. Michael Kohn, rhp, Orem (Angels)

[Guest]

NYPL Top 20

 

1. Jason Castro, c, Tri-City (Astros)

2. David Cooper, 1b, Auburn (Blue Jays)

3. Adam Reifer, rhp, Batavia (Cardinals)

4. Derek Norris, c, Vermont (Nationals)

5. Travis D'Arnaud, c, Williamsport (Phillies)

6. Lonnie Chisenhall, ss, Mahoning Valley (Indians)

7. Brad Holt, rhp, Brooklyn (Mets)

8. Nick Barnese, rhp, Hudson Valley (Rays)

9. Jenrry Mejia, Brooklyn (Mets)

10. P.J. Dean, rhp, Vermont (Nationals)

11. Reese Havens, ss, Brooklyn (Mets)

12. Bryan Price, rhp, Lowell (Red Sox)

13. Brock Huntzinger, rhp, Lowell (Red Sox)

14. Danny Espinosa, ss, Vermont (Nationals)

15. Kyle Weiland, rhp, Lowell (Red Sox)

16. Tim Fedroff, of, Mahoning Valley (Indians)

17. Ike Davis, 1b, Brooklyn (Mets)

18. Chase d'Arnaud, ss, State College (Pirates)

19. Cord Phelps, 2b, Mahoning Valley (Indians)

20. Danny Farquhar, rhp, Auburn (Blue Jays)

[Outshined_One]

I was going to make a thread about the 08 BA POTY being Matt Wieters, but realized that topic has been beaten to death. However, league top 20s will probably debut this week or next Monday.

 

I've sorta finalized my first one, the Sally.

 

1. Jason Heyward, RF - Rome, Atlanta

2. Madison Bumgarner, LHP - Augusta, San Francisco

3. Freddie Freeman, 1B - Rome, Atlanta

4. Jesus Montero, C - Charleston, New York Yankees

5. Michael Stanton, RF - Greensboro, Florida

6. Angel Villalona, 1B - Augusta, San Francisco

7. Jhoulys Chacin, RHP - Asheville, Colorado

8. Dominic Brown, CF - Lakewood, Philadelphia

9. Dellin Betances, RHP - Charleston, New York Yankees

10. Michael Burgess, RF - Hagerstown, Washington

11. Michael Taylor, RF - Lakewood, Philadelphia

12. Matt Dominguez, 3B - Greensboro, Florida

13. Cody Johnson, OF - Rome, Atlanta

14. Maikel Cleto, RHP - Savannah, New York Mets

15. Jeff Locke, LHP - Rome, Atlanta

16. Connor Graham, RHP - Asheville, Colorado

17. Austin Romine, C - Charleston, New York Yankees

18. Scott Moviel, RHP - Savannah, New York Mets

19. Cole Rohrbough, LHP - Rome, Atlanta

20. Nick Noonan, 2B - Augusta, San Francisco

 

BA's take:

 

1. Madison Bumgarner, lhp, Augusta (Giants)

2. Jason Heyward, of, Rome (Braves)

3. Mike Stanton, of, Greensboro (Marlins)

4. Jhoulys Chacin, rhp, Asheville (Rockies)

5. Matt Dominguez, 3b, Greensboro (Marlins)

6. Angel Villalona, 1b, Augusta (Giants)

7. Jesus Montero, c, Charleston (Yankees)

8. Austin Romine, c, Charleston (Yankees)

9. Nick Noonan, 2b, Augusta (Giants)

10. Freddie Freeman, 1b, Rome (Braves)

11. Michael Burgess, of, Hagerstown (Nationals)

12. Che-Hsuan Lin, of, Greenville (Red Sox)

13. Cole Rohrbough, lhp, Rome (Braves)

14. Jeff Locke, lhp, Rome (Braves)

15. Michael Taylor, of, Lakewood (Phillies)

16. Alex Cobb, rhp, Columbus (Rays)

17. Darin Holcomb, 3b, Asheville (Rockies)

18. Caleb Gindl, of, West Virginia (Brewers)

19. Ryan Kalish, of, Greenville (Red Sox)

20. Cody Johnson, of, Rome (Braves)

[Guest]

I understand that it's the best prospect in the league but I'd rather have Heyward than Bumgarner.

 

And holy crap, check out the top 10 SAL prospects in 2003:

 

FIVE YEARS AGO

 

1. *B.J. Upton, ss, Charleston (Devil Rays)

2. *Scott Kazmir, lhp, Capital City (Mets)

3. *Cole Hamels, lhp, Lakewood (Phillies)

4. *Jeff Francoeur, of, Rome (Braves)

5. *Jeremy Hermida, of, Greensboro (Marlins)

6. *Hanley Ramirez, ss, Augusta (Red Sox)

7. *Fausto Carmona, rhp, Lake County (Indians)

8. *Merkin Valdez, rhp, Hagerstown (Giants)

9. *Scott Olson, lhp, Greensboro (Marlins)

10. *Mike Hinckley, lhp, Savannah (Expos)

*Has played in major leagues.

[rawaction]

I understand that it's the best prospect in the league but I'd rather have Heyward than Bumgarner.

 

And holy crap, check out the top 10 SAL prospects in 2003:

 

FIVE YEARS AGO

 

1. *B.J. Upton, ss, Charleston (Devil Rays)

2. *Scott Kazmir, lhp, Capital City (Mets)

3. *Cole Hamels, lhp, Lakewood (Phillies)

4. *Jeff Francoeur, of, Rome (Braves)

5. *Jeremy Hermida, of, Greensboro (Marlins)

6. *Hanley Ramirez, ss, Augusta (Red Sox)

7. *Fausto Carmona, rhp, Lake County (Indians)

8. *Merkin Valdez, rhp, Hagerstown (Giants)

9. *Scott Olson, lhp, Greensboro (Marlins)

10. *Mike Hinckley, lhp, Savannah (Expos)

*Has played in major leagues.

 

Not only all played in the majors, but the top 7 and Olson have played at a very high level at points in their careers.

[Guest]

I understand that it's the best prospect in the league but I'd rather have Heyward than Bumgarner.

 

And holy crap, check out the top 10 SAL prospects in 2003:

 

FIVE YEARS AGO

 

1. *B.J. Upton, ss, Charleston (Devil Rays)

2. *Scott Kazmir, lhp, Capital City (Mets)

3. *Cole Hamels, lhp, Lakewood (Phillies)

4. *Jeff Francoeur, of, Rome (Braves)

5. *Jeremy Hermida, of, Greensboro (Marlins)

6. *Hanley Ramirez, ss, Augusta (Red Sox)

7. *Fausto Carmona, rhp, Lake County (Indians)

8. *Merkin Valdez, rhp, Hagerstown (Giants)

9. *Scott Olson, lhp, Greensboro (Marlins)

10. *Mike Hinckley, lhp, Savannah (Expos)

*Has played in major leagues.

 

Not only all played in the majors, but the top 7 and Olson have played at a very high level at points in their careers.

 

The craziest part is that this is a low-A ball list, not at all close to the big leagues.

[Guest]

California League Top 20

 

1. Trevor Cahill, rhp, Stockton (Athletics)

2. Carlos Santana, c, Inland Empire (Dodgers)

3. Lars Anderson, 1b, Lancaster (Red Sox)

4. Brett Anderson, lhp, Stockton (Athletics)

5. Jhoulys Chacin, rhp, Modesto (Rockies)

6. Tim Alderson, rhp, San Jose (Giants)

7. Pablo Sandoval, c, San Jose (Giants)

8. Josh Reddick, of, Lancaster (Red Sox)

9. Henry Rodriguez, rhp, Stockton (Athletics)

10. Cedric Hunter, of, Lake Elsinore (Padres)

11. Julio Borbon, of, Bakersfield (Rangers)

12. Jordan Walden, rhp, Rancho Cucamonga (Angels)

13. Greg Halman, of, High Desert (Mariners)

14. Chris Carter, 1b, Stockton (Athletics)

15. Carlos Triunfel, ss, High Desert (Mariners)

16. Sean Doolittle, 1b, Stockton (Athletics)

17. Peter Bourjos, of, Rancho Cucamonga (Angels)

18. Sean O'Sullivan, rhp, Rancho Cucamonga (Angels)

19. Josh Donaldson, c, Stockton (Athletics)

20. Kellen Kulbacki, of, Lake Elsinore (Padres)

 

No Hank Conger.

 

19. Josh Donaldson, c, Stockton (Athletics)

 

B-T: R-R Ht.: 6-1 Wt.: 215 Age: 22 Drafted: Cubs '07 (1s)

 

A converted third baseman who ideally profiles as an offense-first catcher, Donaldson was hitting just .217/.276/.349 in low Class A when the Cubs traded him to the Athletics in the Rich Harden deal in July. He got his bat jump-started in the more hitter-friendly Cal League, hitting .330/.391/.564 during the regular season and smashing four doubles and four homers in the playoffs.

 

Donaldson has good plate discipline and should have at least average power, though some scouts question whether he'll hit enough to play every day in the big leagues. He does a good job of using the whole field and runs better than most catchers.

 

Donaldson still needs to work on the nuances of catching. He showed his raw ability by throwing out 35 percent of basestealers in the Cal League, but his receiving skills are still developing. He committed 12 passed balls in 42 games, bringing his career total to 29 in 139 pro contests.

[Guest]

Q: Dave from Alabama asks:

How does Josh Donaldson make the top 20 in the Cal League but not in the Midwest League? I know he got owned in the MWL (saw him play quite a bit) but as we all know prospect status is not based on performance... so would he have still made the list if he would not have hit in the Cal League?

 

A: Will Lingo: Prospect status is not based solely on performance, but performance has to play a role. And Donaldson stunk in the MWL. His poor performance is explainable, but in a league as big as the Midwest, if a guy is that bad then it's easy to find other guys to highlight from the league in a particular year. I happen to know the guy who wrote up that MWL prospect list, and I know he likes Donaldson.

[Mephistopheles]

cal league has 10 teams. mwl has 14.

[Guest]

Carolina League Top 20

 

1. Matt Wieters, c, Frederick (Orioles)

2. Jake Arrieta, rhp, Frederick (Orioles)

3. Gorkys Hernandez, of, Myrtle Beach (Braves)

4. Nick Weglarz, of, Kinston (Indians)

5. Beau Mills, 1b, Kinston (Indians)

6. Aaron Poreda, lhp, Winston-Salem (White Sox)

7. Blake Wood, rhp, Wilmington (Royals)

8. Brandon Erbe, rhp, Frederick (Orioles)

9. Hector Rondon, rhp, Kinston (Indians)

10. Chris Marrero, 1b, Potomac (Nationals)

11. Ross Detwiler, lhp, Potomac (Nationals)

12. Tyler Flowers, c, Myrtle Beach (Braves)

13. Brandon Hicks, ss, Myrtle Beach (Braves)

14. Brandon Allen, 1b, Winston-Salem (White Sox)

15. Carlos Rivero, ss, Kinston (Indians)

16. Brandon Snyder, 1b, Frederick (Orioles)

17. John Ely, rhp, Winston-Salem (White Sox)

18. Josh Tomlin, rhp, Kinston (Indians)

19. Kanekoa Texeira, rhp, Winston-Salem (White Sox)

20. Bill Rowell, 3b, Frederick (Orioles)

[Guest]

Carolina League Top 20

 

1. Matt Wieters, c, Frederick (Orioles)

Queuing Truffle in 3...2...1...

[Guest]

Que Truffle again.

 

The EL Top 20

 

EASTERN LEAGUE TOP 20 PROSPECTS

1. Matt Wieters, c, Bowie (Orioles)

2. Chris Tillman, rhp, Bowie (Orioles)

3. Travis Snider, of, New Hampshire (Blue Jays)

4. Lars Anderson, 1b, Portland (Red Sox)

5. Jordan Zimmerman, rhp, Harrisburg (Nationals)

6. Carlos Carrasco, rhp, Reading (Phillies)

7. Fernando Martinez, of, Binghamton (Mets)

8. J.P. Arencibia, c, New Hampshire (Blue Jays)

9. Daniel Bard, rhp, Portland (Red Sox)

10. Austin Jackson, of, Trenton (Yankees)

11. David Huff, lhp, Akron (Indians)

12. Jose Tabata, of, Trenton (Yankees)/Altoona (Pirates)

13. Daniel Murphy, 3b/of, Binghamton (Mets)

14. Lou Marson, c, Reading (Phillies)

15. Michael Bowden, rhp, Portland (Red Sox)

16. Wes Hodges, 3b, Akron (Indians)

17. Brett Cecil, lhp, New Hampshire (Blue Jays)

18. Jon Niese, lhp, Binghamton (Mets)

19. Pablo Sandoval, c/1b, Connecticut (Giants)

20. Greg Golson, of, Reading (Phillies)

 

That Bedard trade was HORRIBLE for the Mariners. What the hell were they thinking?

[Guest]

Texas League Top 20

 

1. Dexter Fowler, of, Tulsa (Rockies)

2. Chris Davis, 1b, Frisco (Rangers)

3. Kyle Blanks, 1b, San Antonio (Padres)

4. Vin Mazzaro, rhp, Midland (Athletics)

5. Elvis Andrus, ss, Frisco (Rangers)

6. Daniel Cortes, rhp, Northwest Arkansas (Royals)

7. Jess Todd, rhp, Springfield (Cardinals)

8. Julio Borbon, of, Frisco (Rangers)

9. Max Ramirez, c, Frisco (Rangers)

10. James Simmons, rhp, Midland (Athletics)

11. Aaron Cunningham, of, Midland (Athletics)

12. Kila Ka'aihue, 1b, Northwest Arkansas (Royals)

13. Daryl Jones, of, Springfield (Cardinals)

14. Steve Garrison, lhp, San Antonio (Padres)

15. Will Inman, rhp, San Antonio (Padres)

16. Jon Jay, of, Springfield (Cardinals)

17. Kevin Jepsen, rhp, Arkansas (Angels)

18. Fernando Salas, rhp, Springfield (Cardinals)

19. Casey Weathers, rhp, Tulsa (Rockies)

20. Chris Johnson, 3b, Corpus Christi (Astros)

[Guest]

International League

 

1. Jay Bruce, of, Louisville (Reds)

2. Andrew McCutchen, of, Indianapolis (Pirates)

3. Wade Davis, rhp, Durham (Rays)

4. Reid Brignac, ss, Durham (Rays)

5. Jed Lowrie, ss, Pawtucket (Red Sox)

6. David Huff, lhp, Buffalo (Indians)

7. Neil Walker, 3b, Indianapolis (Pirates)

8. Denard Span, of, Rochester (Twins)

9. Charlie Morton, rhp, Richmond (Braves)

10. Homer Bailey, rhp, Louisville (Reds)

11. David Purcey, lhp, Syracuse (Blue Jays)

12. Kevin Mulvey, rhp, Rochester (Twins)

13. Matt Joyce, of, Toledo (Twins)

14. Brandon Moss, of/1b, Pawtucket (Red Sox)

15. J.A. Happ, lhp, Lehigh Valley (Phillies)

16. Jeff Niemann, rhp, Durham (Rays)

17. Brandon Jones, of, Richmond (Braves)

18. Collin Balester, rhp, Columbus (Nationals)

19. Brett Gardner, of, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre (Yankees)

20. Chris Getz, ss/2b, Charlotte (White Sox)

[NCCubFan]

International League

 

3. Wade Davis, rhp, Durham (Rays)

Thanks for trading him to me in Roadkill. :D

[Guest]

International League

 

3. Wade Davis, rhp, Durham (Rays)

Thanks for trading him to me in Roadkill. :D

 

Ehh, worthless trade. JD Drew got hurt (shocking!) but I still won the championship in RK.

 

And I replaced Davis with Justin Smoak off the waiver wire. I'll be fine, my minor league is still one of the best in RK.

 

Along with that championship I just won.