Baseball Tonight and franchise players discussion

[sneakypower]

in the interest of full disclosure, i only know what team he played for because i looked at the T206 tobacco card on my dresser

[OleMissCub]

in the interest of full disclosure, i only know what team he played for because i looked at the T206 tobacco card on my dresser

 

Well, the fact that Wagner played so long ago and so little film footage of him exists, makes it a bit more understandable how a smart baseball fan might not know what team he was with.

[Derwood]

in the interest of full disclosure, i only know what team he played for because i looked at the T206 tobacco card on my dresser

 

Well, the fact that Wagner played so long ago and so little film footage of him exists, makes it a bit more understandable how a smart baseball fan might not know what team he was with.

 

I know Babe Ruth played for the Astros and Ty Cobb was the #1 pick in the 1993 Expansion Draft, but beyond that....

[Gingerballs Lives]

I'm most surprised the Cards fans didn't vote for So Taguchi.

 

Indeed. If you go by jersey-shirt purchases per fanbase, per capita, So Taguchi is the greatest baseball player who ever lived.

[Paladin Cecil]

Note: I'm out of town right now, so I'm not gonna be able to watch Baseball Tonight regularly. I think the last team they covered was the Twins/Senators. Did anyone see that episode?

[CubmanPi]

Note: I'm out of town right now, so I'm not gonna be able to watch Baseball Tonight regularly. I think the last team they covered was the Twins/Senators. Did anyone see that episode?

Walter Johnson was ESPN's top pick, and Puckett was left off the list but put on top by the fans. I don't remember the other two names, but they seemed like fairly obvious choices.

[TruffleShuffle]

Note: I'm out of town right now, so I'm not gonna be able to watch Baseball Tonight regularly. I think the last team they covered was the Twins/Senators. Did anyone see that episode?

Walter Johnson was ESPN's top pick, and Puckett was left off the list but put on top by the fans. I don't remember the other two names, but they seemed like fairly obvious choices.

 

probably killebrew (he should be 2) and carew (he should be 3)

[OleMissCub]

Puckett was left off the list but put on top by the fans. I don't remember the other two names, but they seemed like fairly obvious choices.

 

Aye Carumba! I can't imagine Walter not being on top.

 

For the Twinkies, I would have gone

 

1. Big Train (400+ wins on a crappy team, with a career 2.17 ERA and 1.061 WHIP)

2. Rod Carew

3. Bert Blyleven

 

toss up between Puckett and Killebrew for fourth.

 

The Indians are up today:

 

1. Bob Feller (would have had 300 wins if not for WWII...he enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor and was the first MLB player to enlist)

2. Tris Speaker (top 5 CF all-time)

3. Nap Lajoie (top 5 2B all-time)

[OleMissCub]

Looks like the fan results for The Tribe are already up....fans went

 

1. Feller

2. Speaker

3. Thome

[TruffleShuffle]

The results for the Pirates and Rays are up:

 

Pirates:

ESPN:

1. Honus Wagner

2. Roberto Clemente

3. Willie Stargell

Viewers: Weren't mentioned

 

i'm really only doing merit-based rankings - none of this "who do you associate with that team" business.

 

1. honus wagner

2. paul waner

3. clemente by a hair

4. arky vaughan

5. stargell

[TruffleShuffle]

Looks like the fan results for The Tribe are already up....fans went

 

1. Feller

2. Speaker

3. Thome

 

1. feller

2. nap lajoie

3. speaker (better player than lajoie, but many of speaker's best years came in a red sox uniform)

 

can't believe the fans forgot nap lajoie :lol:

[OleMissCub]

3. speaker (better player than lajoie, but many of speaker's best years came in a red sox uniform)

 

Ya, Speaker was one of those tweener players that we talked about. Although I think it is more fair to put him as an Indian since he was their player/manger for eight seasons and won the franchise's first World Series in 1920.

 

can't believe the fans forgot nap lajoie :lol:

 

He was such a bad dude that they renamed the team after him!

[OleMissCub]

The results for the Pirates and Rays are up:

 

Pirates:

ESPN:

1. Honus Wagner

2. Roberto Clemente

3. Willie Stargell

Viewers: Weren't mentioned

 

i'm really only doing merit-based rankings - none of this "who do you associate with that team" business.

 

1. honus wagner

2. paul waner

3. clemente by a hair

4. arky vaughan

5. stargell

 

The viewers went:

1. Clemente

2. Wagner

3. Stargell

 

Big Poison only got 0.3%!!

[TruffleShuffle]

The results for the Pirates and Rays are up:

 

Pirates:

ESPN:

1. Honus Wagner

2. Roberto Clemente

3. Willie Stargell

Viewers: Weren't mentioned

 

i'm really only doing merit-based rankings - none of this "who do you associate with that team" business.

 

1. honus wagner

2. paul waner

3. clemente by a hair

4. arky vaughan

5. stargell

 

The viewers went:

1. Clemente

2. Wagner

3. Stargell

 

Big Poison only got 0.3%!!

 

yeah, waner and vaughan get overlooked a lot because the pirates generally were average as a team during their careers, they played in a small media market and they were overshadowed by some of the greats during that time (ruth, gehrig, foxx, hornsby, ott, ted williams). also, forbes field severely sapped their home run numbers - while they weren't as strong as ruth and gehrig, and possessed more doubles/triples power than home runs, i suspect that they'd have increased their home run totals by a factor of 2 if they'd played in a more homer-friendly park.

[CubmanPi]

Note: I'm out of town right now, so I'm not gonna be able to watch Baseball Tonight regularly. I think the last team they covered was the Twins/Senators. Did anyone see that episode?

Walter Johnson was ESPN's top pick, and Puckett was left off the list but put on top by the fans. I don't remember the other two names, but they seemed like fairly obvious choices.

 

probably killebrew (he should be 2) and carew (he should be 3)

I believe you are correct.

[Paladin Cecil]

The results for the Phillies are in:

 

ESPN:

1. Mike Schmidt

2. Steve Carlton

3. Robin Roberts

 

Viewers:

1. Mike Schmidt

2. Dick Allen

3. Steve Carlton

 

My choices:

1. Mike Schmidt

2. Grover Alexander

3. Steve Carlton

[TruffleShuffle]

The results for the Phillies are in:

 

ESPN:

1. Mike Schmidt

2. Steve Carlton

3. Robin Roberts

 

Viewers:

1. Mike Schmidt

2. Dick Allen

3. Steve Carlton

 

My choices:

1. Mike Schmidt

2. Grover Alexander

3. Steve Carlton

 

i don't think alexander played long enough in a phillie uniform for me to put him on the list.

 

i actually would go with espn's top 3, in the same order.