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meh. people talk about it like it's some gem but it's never been anything special, and really, with no fans in the outfield, it almost feels like a minor league game.

I disagree. Kauffman is a great place to watch a game, and while you disparage it by saying it feels like a minor league park I think that's part of it's charm. You don't feel like you're in a cookie-cutter megastaduim or a mall when you're there;

 

That's exactly what it feels like: concrete, cold, and very little personality. It has all the downsides of a megastadium but none of the charm.

 

I think it'll be a lot better after the renovation.

 

It may not seem special when compared to today's billion-dollar stadiums with architectural significance, but when compared with its contemporaries it's an amazingly beautiful park.

 

Actually, when you look at it, it's remarkably similar to the other stadiums built around that period, except they tricked you by cutting out about a third of the seats to open up the outfield.

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There's a joke about Ryan Braun's defense somewhere in here.

Beat me to it.

 

The Brewers only want to move so they can have a position for Ryan Braun.

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That's exactly what it feels like: concrete, cold, and very little personality. It has all the downsides of a megastadium but none of the charm.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I've never gotten that feel from Kauffman myself and it's widely regarded as a fine MLB stadium. Just out of curiosity, how many games have you attended there and on what dates?

 

Actually, when you look at it, it's remarkably similar to the other stadiums built around that period, except they tricked you by cutting out about a third of the seats to open up the outfield.

The most important difference, in my view, is the fact that it was designed from the outset to be a baseball-only venue. The sight lines are impeccable, most seats are reasonably close to the action, and if there's a bad seat in the house I haven't found it.

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The Royals are just a pathetic organization. They've only had 2 winning records in the past 15 years.

We root for the Cubs.

 

I agree. Cub fans have very little right to go calling ANY organization "pathetic."

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There's a joke about Ryan Braun's defense somewhere in here.

 

 

 

Selfishly, I'm down. It' just a 4 hour drive and I could see the Cubs every year.

 

And yes, this. I was pretty stoked when it initally sounded like we were going to KC this year. Kauffman is a real nice place to watch a game, and I think they still have the cheapest ticket prices in MLB.

I pay 7 bucks for HyVee tickets and then go sit pretty much wherever I want on most days. I love the K.

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Earlier I asked the question: Was it the White Sox and Brewers (when they were in the A.L.) that used to have such an intense rivalry before the switch? Did they have beanball wars? Or am I dreaming?

 

--- Does anyone remember? I think this is right.

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Earlier I asked the question: Was it the White Sox and Brewers (when they were in the A.L.) that used to have such an intense rivalry before the switch? Did they have beanball wars? Or am I dreaming?

 

--- Does anyone remember? I think this is right.

 

You're not wrong...

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Earlier I asked the question: Was it the White Sox and Brewers (when they were in the A.L.) that used to have such an intense rivalry before the switch? Did they have beanball wars? Or am I dreaming?

 

--- Does anyone remember? I think this is right.

 

There was a point in time where that division would have constant wars. When he managed the Tigers, Phil Garner was especially notorious for goading other teams into bench-clearing brawls. This game comes immediately to mind.

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Earlier I asked the question: Was it the White Sox and Brewers (when they were in the A.L.) that used to have such an intense rivalry before the switch? Did they have beanball wars? Or am I dreaming?

 

--- Does anyone remember? I think this is right.

 

There was a point in time where that division would have constant wars. When he managed the Tigers, Phil Garner was especially notorious for goading other teams into bench-clearing brawls. This game comes immediately to mind.

 

Phil Garner and the Tigers? Didn't Garner manage the Brew Crew? I do remember the fierce rivalry that Detroit had with the White Sox...especially the game that "Outshined" mentioned. Thanks guys for your input.

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Phil Garner and the Tigers? Didn't Garner manage the Brew Crew? I do remember the fierce rivalry that Detroit had with the White Sox...especially the game that "Outshined" mentioned. Thanks guys for your input.

 

Garner managed the Tigers from 2000-2002.

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Phil Garner and the Tigers? Didn't Garner manage the Brew Crew? I do remember the fierce rivalry that Detroit had with the White Sox...especially the game that "Outshined" mentioned. Thanks guys for your input.

 

Garner managed the Tigers from 2000-2002.

 

..... and Milwaukee from 1992-1999

..... and Houston from 2004-2007

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That's exactly what it feels like: concrete, cold, and very little personality. It has all the downsides of a megastadium but none of the charm.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I've never gotten that feel from Kauffman myself and it's widely regarded as a fine MLB stadium. Just out of curiosity, how many games have you attended there and on what dates?

 

I went there once, last summer. Them versus the Twins, Santana started.

 

The most important difference, in my view, is the fact that it was designed from the outset to be a baseball-only venue. The sight lines are impeccable, most seats are reasonably close to the action, and if there's a bad seat in the house I haven't found it.

 

It's not that I don't like it, it's that I think it's overrated. Sure, compared to the other stadiums of its generation, the Riverfronts and the Astrodomes of the world, it is the best of its class. But beyond being remarkable against a relatively unremarkable field, I don't see why everyone is so in love with Kaufman Stadium. It's average in every way.

 

And that's what I liked about Kaufman, that it really was nothing special. Just a great place to see a ballgame.

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it's their own fault that miller park is wrigley north. the team doesn't sell itself well in the community and everyone knows that when there is an opportunity, cub nation will take over and make you a visitor in your own ballpark (see turner field, atlanta 2003).

 

if given the opportunity bush stadium could become wrigley south. quite often cincinnati becomes wrigley central. if they don't like being the cubs b!tch, be a better team and beat us then.

 

LOL, they have been beating us. That's not the reason why Cubs fans swarm their stadiums.

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