HOFers currently playing

[inari]

Arod is a thirdbasemen not a shortstop... what about Carlos Zambrano or Kerry Wood?

 

You're asking about Kerry Wood's chances to make the Hall of Fame? About as good as mine at this point.

[champaignchris]

First post!

 

My favorite barroom game to play with my baseball watchin' friends is "Who's in?"

 

Here's my list of those who were active last year...

 

Clemons (assuming steroids don't keep him out)

Maddux

Glavine

R. Johnson

Smoltz

Pedro

Hoffman

M. Rivera

B. Wagner

 

C. Biggio

B. Bonds (assuming steroids don't keep him out)

Omar Vizquel

K. Griffey

G. Sheffield

I. Rodriguez

F. Thomas

S. Sosa

D. Jeter

J. Kent

A Rod

M. Ramirez

M. Piazza

V. Guerrerro

 

Pujols and Ichiro each need about 3 more years of play at the level they've shown over the last three or four years. If Ichiro can get 3 more years of 200 hits, that'd be 10 straight years of at least 200 hits at age 37. With a career batting average in the .330's, that'd have to make him a mortal lock.

 

Mussina could have a really nice win total before his career is over. But his ERA wouldn't be all that impressive. He'd basically be a Jack Morris kind of candidate.

[OleMissCub]

 

Mussina could have a really nice win total before his career is over. But his ERA wouldn't be all that impressive. He'd basically be a Jack Morris kind of candidate.

 

Good first post.

 

Definitely agree with the Mussina - Morris comparison.

[BigbadB]

First post!

 

My favorite barroom game to play with my baseball watchin' friends is "Who's in?"

 

Here's my list of those who were active last year...

 

Clemons (assuming steroids don't keep him out)

Maddux

Glavine

R. Johnson

Smoltz

Pedro

Hoffman

M. Rivera

B. Wagner

 

C. Biggio

B. Bonds (assuming steroids don't keep him out)

Omar Vizquel

K. Griffey

G. Sheffield

I. Rodriguez

F. Thomas

S. Sosa

D. Jeter

J. Kent

A Rod

M. Ramirez

M. Piazza

V. Guerrerro

 

Pujols and Ichiro each need about 3 more years of play at the level they've shown over the last three or four years. If Ichiro can get 3 more years of 200 hits, that'd be 10 straight years of at least 200 hits at age 37. With a career batting average in the .330's, that'd have to make him a mortal lock.

 

Mussina could have a really nice win total before his career is over. But his ERA wouldn't be all that impressive. He'd basically be a Jack Morris kind of candidate.

 

Not a bad list, but I would think that Hoffman's saves will set the bar making it tough for Wagner to get in unless he extends his career for several more years. Also, the offense at SS these days will make it tough for Vizquel, IMO.

[justlikethecubs]

First post!

 

My favorite barroom game to play with my baseball watchin' friends is "Who's in?"

 

Here's my list of those who were active last year...

 

Clemons (assuming steroids don't keep him out)

Maddux

Glavine

R. Johnson

Smoltz

Pedro

Hoffman

M. Rivera

B. Wagner

 

C. Biggio

B. Bonds (assuming steroids don't keep him out)

Omar Vizquel

K. Griffey

G. Sheffield

I. Rodriguez

F. Thomas

S. Sosa

D. Jeter

J. Kent

A Rod

M. Ramirez

M. Piazza

V. Guerrerro

 

Pujols and Ichiro each need about 3 more years of play at the level they've shown over the last three or four years. If Ichiro can get 3 more years of 200 hits, that'd be 10 straight years of at least 200 hits at age 37. With a career batting average in the .330's, that'd have to make him a mortal lock.

 

Mussina could have a really nice win total before his career is over. But his ERA wouldn't be all that impressive. He'd basically be a Jack Morris kind of candidate.

 

Not a bad list, but I would think that Hoffman's saves will set the bar making it tough for Wagner to get in unless he extends his career for several more years. Also, the offense at SS these days will make it tough for Vizquel, IMO.

 

What about Percival? I assume probably the same thing with him as his save total is a few lower then Wagner's right now but he seems to be comparable. I know he has been injured lately but if he has a few good years left in him he could make a run at it.

[champaignchris]

As for Wagner, he's #7 in saves, with some years left. If he can get 60 more saves before he retires, he'll get up to #5. The only guy with a better career ERA among the top 65 in career saves is Rivera. Wagner's got 30 more saves (and counting), a better winning percentage, and an ERA .6 better in 120 more innings pitched than Percival.

 

With the recent additions of Sutter and Gossage, and assuming Hoffman and Rivera are absolute locks, the next reliever in would have to be either Wagner or Quisenberry (who would have to be a veteran committee addition).

 

I also think Wagner will get some bonus points for being a relatively diminutive left handed fire-baller. Don't see too many of those.

 

As for Omar Vizquel... 2600 hits and 11 Gold Gloves. He compares pretty favorably to Aparicio, Reese, and Ozzie Smith. Rizzuto doesn't hold a candle to him.