trivia question

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Yeah, I got nothing on the bonus question.

[Mephistopheles]

To reiterate:

 

Who are the top 3 hitters in all-time slugging who never led the league in slugging before the roid era.

 

Hint in next post

[Mephistopheles]

Hint:

 

Like the top 3 overall, the three of these played in the same era that was dominated by a two or three elite hitters who led the league every frickin year. In fact they all retired within four seasons of each other.

 

[OleMissCub]

To reiterate:

 

Who are the top 3 hitters in all-time slugging who never led the league in slugging before the roid era.

 

Hint in next post

 

 

Is Mel Ott one of them (this will help me think about who the others might be via your hint)?

 

[Mephistopheles]

higher slugging percentages and he was a leader once.

[OleMissCub]

higher slugging percentages and he was a leader once.

 

Hmmm.....Here's my train of thought.

 

You said it was a pre roid era that was dominated by a select few people. It also needs to be an era of high slugging, so I don't think it is anyone from the 60's or 70's. It also isn't the deadball era because they didn't put up high enough slugging percentages for any one of them to be ranked very high on all time list. So I'm going to zero in on the 20's and 30's because that was a time dominated by sluggers like Ruth, Hornsby, Foxx, and Gehrig. That's why I guessed Ott, but even though it isn't him, I'm still going to stick with that era and say....

 

 

Harry Heilmann, Al Simmons, & Hank Greenberg....

 

[MSG T]

higher slugging percentages and he was a leader once.

 

 

 

One came to me after your hint, but might not be right, Babe Herman?

 

[haltz]

Greenberg, Snider, Simmons? This one seems incredibly hard.

[OleMissCub]

higher slugging percentages and he was a leader once.

 

 

 

One came to me after your hint, but might not be right, Babe Herman?

 

Surely his all time slugging isn't that high. He isn't even a HOFer.

[MSG T]

higher slugging percentages and he was a leader once.

 

 

 

One came to me after your hint, but might not be right, Babe Herman?

 

Surely his all time slugging isn't that high. He isn't even a HOFer.

 

I just looked him up, he's right by Ott, so I guess I get a big fat zero.

[Mephistopheles]

Babe Herman and Al Simmons are two of the three. I have to leave now but heres the last one:

 

http://tinyurl.com/2pyxad

 

Hint: Another guy with his name later went and played in the majors. Hint2: Not Frank Thomas #1

[OleMissCub]

For no other reason than that he was mentioned earlier....

 

Mr. Mel Ott's crazy swing:

 

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/ott.gif?t=1200704835

 

&

 

Mel Ott footage (made by me!)

[UK1679666180]

At least Ott didn't drop his hands when he swung.

[OleMissCub]

At least Ott didn't drop his hands when he swung.

 

HAHA, ya. I'm all for teaching good fundamentals, but it does make me wonder how many amazing players we may have lost because they weren't allowed to use their natural swing.

[AlwaysaCub]

I have one, hopefully people don't know it. Who was the last man to start both ends of a doubleheader? Hint below

 

 

He did this AFTER 1970

 

[OleMissCub]

Mordecai Brown...

 

edit: oh, just looked at the spoiler!!

 

Nolan Ryan had a rubber arm, so I'm gonna go with him.

[Mephistopheles]

Gotta be a knuckleballer:

 

in order of likelihood

 

 

1. Joe Niekro - the legend

2. Wilbur Wood - absolute workhorse in the 70s

3. Phil Niekro - the legends brother

4. Tom Candiotti

 

 

Its gotta be someone in the 70s so either 1 or 2 on my guesses.

 

No one has gotten the third guy in mine

[AlwaysaCub]

Gotta be a knuckleballer:

 

in order of likelihood

 

 

1. Joe Niekro - the legend

2. Wilbur Wood - absolute workhorse in the 70s

3. Phil Niekro - the legends brother

4. Tom Candiotti

 

 

Its gotta be someone in the 70s so either 1 or 2 on my guesses.

 

No one has gotten the third guy in mine

 

I think I know yours, is it

 

eddie collins

 

 

The pitcher who last started both ends is definitely on your list.

[Mephistopheles]

eddie collins didnt retire within four years of al simmons or babe herman lol

 

and his career slugging is a whopping 429

[NCCubFan]

I have one, hopefully people don't know it. Who was the last man to start both ends of a doubleheader? Hint below

 

My guess would be Wilbur Wood, the year he both won and lost 20. My second guess would be Phil Niekro.

 

[cbbryan]

I have one, hopefully people don't know it. Who was the last man to start both ends of a doubleheader? Hint below

 

 

He did this AFTER 1970

 

 

I know this one. He lost both games as well.

 

 

Wilber Wood did it with the White Sox in the 70's.

 

[OleMissCub]

 

No one has gotten the third guy in mine

 

OK....I'm trying very, very, very, hard not to cheat because this is bothering me a great deal, and considering how much I love that era of baseball, I really want to know the answer.

 

Power hitting contemporaries of Simmons and Herman and it isn't Ott, Greenberg, or Hack Wilson... the only ones I can think of:

 

 

Chuck Klein (he probably led the league at least once, but you never know), Ducky Medwick, Earl Averill, or Gabby Hartnett?

 

 

If none of those is right then I'm out, because I really can't think of anyone else back in that time that I remember as having somewhat significant power.

 

EDIT: I just remembered another and wanted to add his name to my dying effort to name 1920-30's sluggers (remembered him from "The Glory of Their Times"):

 

 

Goose Goslin

 

 

I'm pretty sure he had over 30 homers a couple of times.

Edited January 19, 2008 by OleMissCub

[OleMissCub]

 

I think I know yours, is it

 

eddie collins

 

 

Eddie Collins!!! :P

 

I bet there is maybe 1 or 2 deadballers in the top 50 in all time slugging (my guess would be Cobb, Speaker, or Joe Jackson as the top deadballers)...and it certainly wouldn't be Cocky Eddie.

[bhogg]

What player is the greatest 25 players of all time?

 

 

JOE MORGAN. . . .DUHHH!!!!!

 

[OleMissCub]

What player is the greatest 25 players of all time?

 

 

JOE MORGAN. . . .DUHHH!!!!!

 

I'd bet your son has more knowledge of the game than that egotistical nitwit.