Historical players comparisons

[OleMissCub]

Neat spreadsheet I found.

 

http://files-upload.com/files/639254/Revisedstats-2.xls

 

Some things that I found interesting:

 

- Ted Williams never led the league in hits and was only second in hits twice...although I think it had something to do with the fact that he led the league in BB 8 times! :-)

 

- Mickey Mantle only led the league in RBI once, never placed second in RBI, and only finished third one time.

 

- Hank Aaron led the league in total bases 8 times, and finished in the top 4 in total bases 14 times!

 

- Rogers Hornsby led the league in SLG 9 times, finishing second all time to Ruth who led the league in SLG 13 times.

 

- Stan Musial (most underrated superstar ever, IMO) led the league in BA 7 times, hits 6 times, doubles 8 times, and triples 5 times.

 

- Joe Jackson threw a baseball 396 feet on Sept 27, 1917 at Fenway Park during a contest, defeating Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, and Babe Ruth. (Be interesting to have a long toss contest nowadays, I'd think, but it's obvious why they wouldn't).

 

- From 2001-2004, Barry Bonds' OPS+ was 244!

[CuseCubFan69]

Dusty always hated Teddy Baseball....it's called hitting not walking!

 

Hank was so consistent that he was hardly noticed until he got close to the Babe. He's my pick for most underrated player of all time.

[Backtobanks]

- Joe Jackson threw a baseball 396 feet on Sept 27, 1917 at Fenway Park during a contest, defeating Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, and Babe Ruth. (Be interesting to have a long toss contest nowadays, I'd think, but it's obvious why they wouldn't).

 

I think they ought to havethe contest. I nominate the first two players: Juan Pierre and Jacque Jones.

[Yanksfan1523]

- Joe Jackson threw a baseball 396 feet on Sept 27, 1917 at Fenway Park during a contest, defeating Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, and Babe Ruth. (Be interesting to have a long toss contest nowadays, I'd think, but it's obvious why they wouldn't).

 

I think they ought to havethe contest. I nominate the first two players: Juan Pierre and Jacque Jones.

 

Don't forget Johnny Damon.

[Roast]

- From 2001-2004, Barry Bonds' OPS+ was 244!

That's just obscene.

[Yanksfan1523]

- From 2001-2004, Barry Bonds' OPS+ was 244!

That's just obscene.

 

So was Barry.

[OleMissCub]

This one shows historical salaries....imagine having a 150+ RBI guy like Lou Gehrig for only 8,000 bucks! :-)

 

http://bluestreak.pbwiki.com/f/salaries.xls

[OleMissCub]

Finally figured out how stat code works on this message board.

 

Ruth leading the league in OPS+ 13 times is ridiculous. Amazing that Hornsby did it 12 times.

 

I also added Bonds and A-Rod to the list. It's interesting how few times A-Rod has been in the top 6 in the league in offensive categories...obviously his career has a much longer way to go before it is finished, but still.

 

 

Ruth---------BA---Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI--TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league----1----0----1----0---12---8---6----6----9---13----0--11--13
2nd league----2----0----1----0----2---1---2--- 3----2----1----0---1---1
3rd-----------2----0----1----0----1---0---0----2----1----1----0---1---2
4th-----------1----3----0----0----0---0---3----0----2----0----0---0---0
5th-----------1----0----0----0----0---1---0----0----0----0----0---0---0
6th-----------0----2----1----1----0---1---1----0----0----0----0---0---0

Cobb--------BA--Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI-TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league--12---8----3----4----1---5---4---6----7----8----6---0--11
2nd-league---3---3----4----4----2---2---2---2----7----3----1---1---3
3rd----------1---3----4----2----2---2---1---2----0----3----2---0---1 
4th----------2---0----0----1----0---1---0---1----0----1----3---1---1
5th----------1---0----0----1----0---2---1---0----1----0----0---1---0
6th----------2---0----2----0----0---0---0---0----0----0----0---0---0

Wagner-------BA--Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI--TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league----8---2----7----3----0---2---5----7---4----6----5---0--6
2nd league----2---2----1----3----1---2---2----1---1----3----0---0--2
3rd-----------0---5----3----2----0---2---2----4---2----2----2---0--2
4th-----------2---3----0----0----1---2---3----2---1----1----0---1--1
5th-----------1---1----1----0----2---1---1----2---2----0----0---0--0
6th-----------1---0----0----1----2---0---1----0---0----1----0---1--0

Hornsby-----BA---Hits-2B---3B--HR----R--RBI--TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league---8----4----4----2---2----5---4----7----9----9----0---3--12
2nd league---2----1----1----1---2----1---1----2----1----1----0---1---1
3rd----------1----1----1----1---3----0---2----0----1----1----0---0---0
4th----------1----3----4----0---1----2---0----0----0----1----0---2---0
5th----------0----0----0----0---5----0---0----0----0----1----0---0---0
6th----------0----0----0----1---1----0---1----1----1----0----0---2---1

Barry Bonds----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------2----0----0---0---2----1----1----1---10--7---0--12--9
2nd in league---0----0----0---0---5----3----1----0---3---1---0---4--3
3rd-------------1----0----0---0---1----6----0----1---0---1---1---1--2
4th-------------0----0----0---0---4----0----4----0---2---3---1---0--0	
5th-------------0----0----0---0---0----1----0----3---1---1---2---0--1
6th-------------0----0----0---0---0----3----2----1---0---1---2---0--0	

Alex Rodriguez--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------1----1----1---0---5----5----2----4---0---3---0---0--2
2nd in league---1----1----0---0---0----2----1----2---1---0---0---0--0
3rd-------------0----0----0---0---0----1----1----1---0---2---0---1--0
4th-------------0----1----0---0---1----0----2----0---1---1---1---0--2	
5th-------------0----0----0---0---1----2----1----0---0---1---1---0--3
6th-------------0----1----0---0---1----0----1----1---0---1---0---0--0

Gehrig------BA---Hits-2B---3B---HR--Runs--RBI--TB---OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
Led league---1----1----1----4----2----4----4----2----4----2---0---3--3
2nd league---2----3----0----0----4----2----4----3----2----4---0---2--6
3rd----------3----0----0----1----3----3----2----2----3----1---0---3--3
4th----------0----1----0----0----1----2----2----0----0----3---0---0--0
5th----------2----1----0----0----1----0----0----1----1----0---0---0--0
6th----------1----0----1----0----1----0----0----1----0----0---0---1--0			

Ted Williams--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA--SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league-----6----0----2---0---4---6----4----6---12---8---0---8--9
2nd in league--2----1----2---0---4---1----2----0----0---1---0---1--1
3rd------------1----2----0---0---2---1----1----4----0---1---0---2--3
4th------------1----1----2---0---0---1----1----0----0---2---0---0--0
5th------------0----4----0---0---0---0----1----0----0---0---0---1--0
6th------------0----0----0---0---3---0----0----0----1---0---0---1--0

Mickey Mantle--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------1----1----0---1---4----6----1----3---3---4---0---5--8
2nd in league---1----0----1---0---3----2----3----4---5---0---0---3--3
3rd-------------1----0----0---0---2----1----1----2---1---2---0---2--1
4th-------------2----2----0---1---0----0----0----1---2---0---2---0--0	
5th-------------0----0----0---0---1----0----2----0---0---0---0---0--0
6th-------------0----0----0---1---0----1----3----0---1---1---0---1--0				

Willie Mays----BA---Hits-2B--3B---HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------1----1----0---3----4---2----0----3---2---5---4---1--6
2nd in league---3----1----1---1----1---5----2----5---1---3---0---1--1
3rd-------------2----1----1---1----3---3----3----5---2---2---0---2--5
4th-------------0----0----0---0----1---0----2----1---1---2---1---1--2
5th-------------1----1----0---0----2---0----1----1---5---4---0---1--0
6th-------------1----2----2---0----2---2----2----0---1---0---0---3--1	

Hank Aaron----BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league-----2---2----4---0---4----3----4---8---0---4---0---0--3
2nd in league--0---3----2---2---4----1----0---2---2---5---1---1--4
3rd------------0---1----1---0---1----4----2---2---3---4---0---2--4
4th------------3---0----1---2---2----2----2---2---1---1---2---2--1
5th------------4---0----0---0---2----1----1---0---2---1---0---0--1
6th------------0---3----1---0---2----1----1---1---1---2---2---0--2	

Joe DiMaggio---BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA--SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------2---0----0---1---2---1----2----3---0----2---0---0--1
2nd in league---0---1----1---0---0---2----3----2---0----5---0---0--4
3rd-------------2---1----0---4---1---0----3----1---2----0---0---0--2
4th-------------0---2----1---0---5---0----1----1---3----0---0---0--0
5th-------------0---0----0---0---2---2----1----2---0----0---0---0--1
6th-------------0---1----1---0---1---1----1----0---0----1---0---0--0

Tris Speaker--BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league-----1---2----8---0---1---0----0----1---4---1---0---0--1
2nd in league--2---1----3---1---2---4----1----3---3---2---0---1--4
3rd------------7---2----1---1---0---2----1----2---4---4---1---0--5	
4th------------2---4----0---0---2---2----2----3---3---4---1---4--3
5th------------1---2----0---0---0---0----0----1---1---2---3---2--3
6th------------1---0----1---1---0---2----0----0---0---1---1---3--0

Nap Lajoie---BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs--RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league----3---4----5---0---1----1----3---4---2---4---0---0--3
2nd in league-3---0----4---1---0----1----1---2---2---3---0---0--3
3rd-----------1---1----1---0---1----0----2---0---1---2---0---0--0
4th-----------1---1----1---0---0----1----1---2---1---0---0---0--1
5th-----------0---1----0---0---0----0----1---0---1---0---0---0--0
6th-----------3---1----0---0---2----0----1---0---0---2---1---0--4

Stan Musial-BA--Hits-2B---3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
Led league---7---6----8----5---0---5----2----6---6---6----0---1--6
2nd league---2---3----3----1---1---4----0----2---7---3----0---0--4
3rd----------5---2----1----1---1---4----3----1---0---0----0---2--0
4th----------2---1----0----2---1---1----2----2---2---3----0---2--3
5th----------1---0----0----1---1---1----2----2---0---1----0---2--0
6th----------0---0----2----0---1---0----0----1---1---0----0---0--1