Phil Rogers: Cubs considering Carlos Silva

[Banedon]

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2007/07/another-name-fo.html

 

Blech.

[Tracer Bullet]

As a stadium usher?

[anabiono]

ok...payton and laird were bad enough but friggin silva...WHY??????????????

[pitchcs]

Oh God no! He is one of the worse pitchers in baseball. I've wondered numerous times how he's even in the big leagues.

[Bruno7481]

See, this why people shouldn't get so worked up if the Cubs don't do anything. I just don't think there is a lot out there right now.

[pitchcs]

Who on earth would he replace, Marshall? Gimme a break.

[anabiono]

actually if we could just swap marquis for silva

 

i would do it

 

:P

[RyneSandberg]

This better be a smokescreen

[JeffH]

The ultimate strike-thrower!

[USSoccer]

I'm considering him right now.

 

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He sucks.

[Soriano12]

If the Cubs are considering Sliva, then I will be considering

 

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[anabiono]

If the Cubs are considering Sliva, then I will be considering

 

http://www.poster.net/anonymous/anonymous-jack-daniels-jack-lives-here-3700907.jpg

 

post of the day, so far...

[thunderbird]

Silva was very bad in 2006, but before that he was actually an above-average starter and this season he is probably a tick below average. He is nothing special, but he would probably come pretty cheap and he would provide some depth. Right now, the Cubs are very short on guys who could step into the rotation if anyone got hurt or if Marquis contined to blow up.

 

As an extreme control/contact pitcher, Silva would likely fare better in the NL, where there is no DH and the offenses generally are not as formidable. His main value would be as an innings-eater in the rotation or long relief who could perform at a league average level. Those guys aren't exciting, but they aren't useless, either.

[Soriano12]

Silva was very bad in 2006, but before that he was actually an above-average starter and this season he is probably a tick below average. He is nothing special, but he would probably come pretty cheap and he would provide some depth. Right now, the Cubs are very short on guys who could step into the rotation if anyone got hurt or if Marquis contined to blow up.

 

As an extreme control/contact pitcher, Silva would likely fare better in the NL, where there is no DH and the offenses generally are not as formidable. His main value would be as an innings-eater in the rotation or long relief who could perform at a league average level. Those guys aren't exciting, but they aren't useless, either.

 

He makes over 4 million per season. Sean Gallagher can outproduce him at a fraction of the cost. Guys like Silva, indeed, are useless.

[CUBZ99]

Silva was very bad in 2006, but before that he was actually an above-average starter and this season he is probably a tick below average. He is nothing special, but he would probably come pretty cheap and he would provide some depth. Right now, the Cubs are very short on guys who could step into the rotation if anyone got hurt or if Marquis contined to blow up.

 

As an extreme control/contact pitcher, Silva would likely fare better in the NL, where there is no DH and the offenses generally are not as formidable. His main value would be as an innings-eater in the rotation or long relief who could perform at a league average level. Those guys aren't exciting, but they aren't useless, either.

 

So in other words, the Cubs would trade a player to get a below average veteran that would likely not outperform a young player the Cubs already have on the 40 man (i.e. Gallagher) ?

[anabiono]

he is making 4 this season...so he wouldn't be that bad...it just depends on what they want for him

 

a little pitching insurance really wouldn't be that bad at all...especially a right hander

[Roast]

a little pitching insurance really wouldn't be that bad at all...especially a right hander

 

Well yeah, but how does Silva help that?

 

Insurance implies that he can actually help us in a way.

[anabiono]

a little pitching insurance really wouldn't be that bad at all...especially a right hander

 

Well yeah, but how does Silva help that?

 

Insurance implies that he can actually help us in a way.

 

god forbid there is an injury to one of our pitchers

 

he would help, i don't know how you could say he wouldn't

 

we don't really have much in starting backups right now

[Soriano12]

he is making 4 this season...so he wouldn't be that bad...it just depends on what they want for him

 

a little pitching insurance really wouldn't be that bad at all...especially a right hander

 

How would Silva be insurance? He is pure garbage.

[USSoccer]

a little pitching insurance really wouldn't be that bad at all...especially a right hander

 

Well yeah, but how does Silva help that?

 

Insurance implies that he can actually help us in a way.

 

god forbid there is an injury to one of our pitchers

 

he would help, i don't know how you could say he wouldn't

 

we don't really have much in starting backups right now

 

Why would we trade players and spend extra payroll to get a guy who probably couldn't outperform Gallagher or Mateo?

[anabiono]

i don't know why we would do it...ask jim...

 

i am just offering up a sunny side to a possible/potentially crappy deal

[thunderbird]

Is there any reason to expect Gallagher or Mateo to perform at an acceptable level (i.e. ERA below 5, to be generous) in the major leagues right now? Gallagher is just 21 years old and was rushed to the majors because of a roster crunch. He has some command issues and does not have overwhelming stuff, which is a bad combination. I think he has a lot of potential, but it is too soon to expect much out of him in the majors. Mateo is just getting into shape after being out much of the season with injury.

 

Generally speaking, I prefer prosects to veterans (I really wish Soto would be given a chance, for example), but I also try to be realistic about it. Counting on Gallagher or Mateo as a #6 starter seems like a real bad idea right now. You know what you are getting with Silva... a guy who throws strikes consistently and generally can give you 6-7 innings with an ERA in the 4.2-4.5 range. If the rotation holds up, he can fill in as a long reliever, something the Cubs don't really have on their roster right now.