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[Keener98]

That's why you got sent down to AAA, Ronny. Don't swing at the first pitch when the pitcher has walked two hitters in the inning.

 

Soriano did the same thing we sending him to AAA?

 

maybe just a slight difference in talent level.

 

I understand that but I dont here anybody else saying Soriano was stupid for swinging. You cant have it both ways

 

Soriano was stupid for swinging at the first pitch. Happy?

 

But that doesn't mean we should send Soriano down to AAA.

 

And clearly I was being serious about that. Sorianos plate approach(if you cant even call it that) is a freaking joke.

Edited July 31, 2007 by Keener98

[Fred Hornkohl]

Wuertz in to pitch for the CUBS

[E.J.]

It's funny that we're fighting over the intelligence of Cedeno and Soriano. It's pretty obvious that neither one of them are signing up for Mensa anytime soon.

[Soriano12]

That's why you got sent down to AAA, Ronny. Don't swing at the first pitch when the pitcher has walked two hitters in the inning.

 

Soriano did the same thing we sending him to AAA?

 

maybe just a slight difference in talent level.

 

I understand that but I dont here anybody else saying Soriano was stupid for swinging. You cant have it both ways

 

Of course you can. Talented players always get more leeway in sports.

That is how it works.

 

Uh, so Soriano wasn't stupid for swinging at the first pitch? He certainly was in my mind. Actually, I've constantly said Soriano has one of the worst plate approaches I've ever seen. Doesn't make him not good, but he certainly doesn't have much of a baseball IQ.

But that isn't the argument..the argument is calling for a player to be sent to AAA. You are not going to send Sori to AAA, however, Cedeno will be in DesMoine shorly if he does get his head out of his arse.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Helms grounded out to third, 5-3

[Keener98]

It's funny that we're fighting over the intelligence of Cedeno and Soriano. It's pretty obvious that neither one of them are signing up for Mensa anytime soon.

 

lmao very true

[sherwood921]

That tarp was crazy. Glad that's never happened to me.

[Fred Hornkohl]

Ruiz struck out swinging

[Keener98]

Well at least we get good Wuertz tonight.

[dbeider]

Cedeno is brutal. He looks and seems lost out there.

 

Even thought they both swung and the first pitch, there is no comparison. One out and the guys has walked 2 of 3 guys, you need to try to get a rally going.

 

Soriano that is part of his game, often hoping to take the first pitch yard, and often successful at it.

[E.J.]

Nice inning by Wuertz.

[KatJ]

It's funny that we're fighting over the intelligence of Cedeno and Soriano. It's pretty obvious that neither one of them are signing up for Mensa anytime soon.

 

And yet, as ballplayers, they'll net eleventy billion times this entire board's lifetime salaries.

 

Life is so not fair.

[CubFanPhilly]

Well at least we get good Wuertz tonight.

 

Wuertz is almost always good.

[CyHawk_Cub]

Well at least we get good Wuertz tonight.

 

Yeah..it is good to see. Too bad we're wasting him on the wrong side of a shut-out....

[Fred Hornkohl]

TOP OF THE SIXTH INNING

 

Wuertz in to pitch for the CUBS

Helms grounded out to third, 5-3

Ruiz struck out swinging

Hamels flied out to left field

 

0 runs 0 hits 0 errors 0 men left on base

 

                1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9              R  H  E
Philadelphia    0 0 3 0 1 0                    4  7  0
CUBS            0 0 0 0 0                      0  2  0

 

Home runs:

Philadelphia: Rowand (15), Iguchi (7)

CUBS: none

 

Philadelphia   IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Hamels        5.0  2  0  0  2  5  0  72

 

CUBS           IP  H  R ER BB  K HR PIT
Lilly         5.0  7  4  4  3  3  2  97
Wuertz        1.0  0  0  0  0  1  0   8

Edited July 31, 2007 by Fred Hornkohl

[inari]

That's why you got sent down to AAA, Ronny. Don't swing at the first pitch when the pitcher has walked two hitters in the inning.

 

Soriano did the same thing we sending him to AAA?

 

maybe just a slight difference in talent level.

 

I understand that but I dont here anybody else saying Soriano was stupid for swinging. You cant have it both ways

 

Of course you can. Talented players always get more leeway in sports.

That is how it works.

 

Uh, so Soriano wasn't stupid for swinging at the first pitch? He certainly was in my mind. Actually, I've constantly said Soriano has one of the worst plate approaches I've ever seen. Doesn't make him not good, but he certainly doesn't have much of a baseball IQ.

But that isn't the argument..the argument is calling for a player to be sent to AAA. You are not going to send Sori to AAA, however, Cedeno will be in DesMoine shorly if he does get his head out of his arse.

 

Cedeno's skills aside, I don't think we can send him down, realistically. Who else is going to take that role on the team? The only adequate shortstop on the team is Theirot and he needs some days off.

[E.J.]

Cedeno is brutal. He looks and seems lost out there.

 

Even thought they both swung and the first pitch, there is no comparison. One out and the guys has walked 2 of 3 guys, you need to try to get a rally going.

 

Soriano that is part of his game, often hoping to take the first pitch yard, and often successful at it.

 

It doesn't seem like Cedeno has learned much since going down. He's still swinging at everything and not taking a good approach at the plate.

[Keener98]

Well at least we get good Wuertz tonight.

 

Wuertz is almost always good.

 

When hes throwing strikes yes, but he does have a tendency to get a little wild. Dont take that as I hate Wuertz, because I like his arm alot.

[Soriano12]

That's why you got sent down to AAA, Ronny. Don't swing at the first pitch when the pitcher has walked two hitters in the inning.

 

Soriano did the same thing we sending him to AAA?

 

maybe just a slight difference in talent level.

 

I understand that but I dont here anybody else saying Soriano was stupid for swinging. You cant have it both ways

 

Of course you can. Talented players always get more leeway in sports.

That is how it works.

 

Uh, so Soriano wasn't stupid for swinging at the first pitch? He certainly was in my mind. Actually, I've constantly said Soriano has one of the worst plate approaches I've ever seen. Doesn't make him not good, but he certainly doesn't have much of a baseball IQ.

But that isn't the argument..the argument is calling for a player to be sent to AAA. You are not going to send Sori to AAA, however, Cedeno will be in DesMoine shorly if he does get his head out of his arse.

 

Cedeno's skills aside, I don't think we can send him down, realistically. Who else is going to take that role on the team? The only adequate shortstop on the team is Theirot and he needs some days off.

 

Tejada 8-)

[TruffleShuffle]

farm out cedeno, call up scott moore... he at least has some value with his bat. Fontenot would be a bad SS, but he can at least back up there.

[Keener98]

That's why you got sent down to AAA, Ronny. Don't swing at the first pitch when the pitcher has walked two hitters in the inning.

 

Soriano did the same thing we sending him to AAA?

 

maybe just a slight difference in talent level.

 

I understand that but I dont here anybody else saying Soriano was stupid for swinging. You cant have it both ways

 

Of course you can. Talented players always get more leeway in sports.

That is how it works.

 

Uh, so Soriano wasn't stupid for swinging at the first pitch? He certainly was in my mind. Actually, I've constantly said Soriano has one of the worst plate approaches I've ever seen. Doesn't make him not good, but he certainly doesn't have much of a baseball IQ.

But that isn't the argument..the argument is calling for a player to be sent to AAA. You are not going to send Sori to AAA, however, Cedeno will be in DesMoine shorly if he does get his head out of his arse.

 

Cedeno's skills aside, I don't think we can send him down, realistically. Who else is going to take that role on the team? The only adequate shortstop on the team is Theirot and he needs some days off.

 

Tejada 8-)

 

Our offense is fine, Jimbo is happy, havent you heard?

[Keener98]

Theriot!

[CraziCub]

Home run Theriot!

[PrimeTime]

THERIOT!!!

[soccer10k]

RIOT!!!