Jeebus Christ Z!!

[KingKongvs.Godzilla]

Believe it or not, today was the first time I watched a Z start this year. I had been meaning to keep up, but lack of mlb.tv + work + school has killed my baseball this year.

 

Anyway, I put on todays start and the first pitch Z throws...all I think is wow he's really injured.

 

Today was the most disturbing too, because from what I've read he's touched 92-93 this year at all. He's got TERRIBLE control, his velocity is down, and that arm slot is ridiculous. He looks like a guy who's shoulder is giving him trouble.

 

I've said it time and time again...signing Z to a long term contract is one of the worst things the Cubs can do.

[sunnydoo]

ibl.

[Wilson A2000]

The assistant GM today said that the Cubs aren't aware of any injuries to Z. If he's hurt, Z isn't saying anything. His location stinks and his slider has always been a college slider at best. Zambrano doesn't want to go on the DL if he's hurt from his perspective, but I doubt he'll get a huge contract if he has a 12-10 year with a 5.00 ERA. Z has to get his emotions under control. How many times has he sucked and no one has yelled at him?

[jaydee]

The cubs need to dump him. I just can't see him being a long term stud #1. That and when he doesn't do well he seems to take it out on teammates.

[Wilson A2000]

Just as it was dumb for NY to sign Isaiah Thomas when he was hot, it would be dumb for the Cubs to dump Z when he's cold. You have to give him a chance. Plus, he won't be worth nearly as much as he would be near the trading deadline. Z has a 3.5 career ERA, gets around 200 innings every year, and is never hurt. You don't dump a young pitcher with that arm after a rough stretch.

[FergieJ31]

ibl.

 

Why would this thread be locked?

 

Z is almost certainly hurt. He probably has a high tolerance for pain, plus with millions at stake he naturally wants to give the impression of being a completely healthy pitcher.

[sunnydoo]

ibl.

 

Why would this thread be locked?

 

Z is almost certainly hurt. He probably has a high tolerance for pain, plus with millions at stake he naturally wants to give the impression of being a completely healthy pitcher.

 

Because of the 6 other topics about this already.

 

viewtopic.php?t=40804

viewtopic.php?t=40702

viewtopic.php?t=40693

viewtopic.php?t=36172

viewtopic.php?t=40455

viewtopic.php?t=40189

viewtopic.php?t=40058

viewtopic.php?t=39575

 

and that is just the first 20 pages of threads.

Edited June 2, 2007 by sunnydoo

[RichHillIsABeast]

ibl.

 

Why would this thread be locked?

 

Z is almost certainly hurt. He probably has a high tolerance for pain, plus with millions at stake he naturally wants to give the impression of being a completely healthy pitcher.

 

Because of the 6 other topics about this already.

 

viewtopic.php?t=40804

viewtopic.php?t=40702

viewtopic.php?t=40693

viewtopic.php?t=36172

viewtopic.php?t=40455

 

That's only 5.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

ibl.

 

Why would this thread be locked?

 

Z is almost certainly hurt. He probably has a high tolerance for pain, plus with millions at stake he naturally wants to give the impression of being a completely healthy pitcher.

 

Because of the 6 other topics about this already.

 

viewtopic.php?t=40804

viewtopic.php?t=40702

viewtopic.php?t=40693

viewtopic.php?t=36172

viewtopic.php?t=40455

 

And all those topics are dead, at least a week and a half old.