The Fish Want Pagan

[Careless]

Kazuo Matsui-.200/.235/.269

yeouch

[CubColtPacer]

Kazuo Matsui-.200/.235/.269

yeouch

 

the scary thing is-there were 6 position players with more than 100 plate appearances who were actually worse than that, including a player who managed a 389 OPS.

[Amazing_Grace]

T Pagan wasn't quite as bad as expected for the Cubs last year, hitting .247/.306/.394 in 170 at-bats

 

I don't know what you expected but that is about as bad a line as it gets.

 

Maybe he expected him to be more like these NL East players who got at least 100 AB's:

 

Pete Orr-.253/.277/.344

Todd Pratt-.207/.272/.341

Alfredo Amezaga-.260/.332/.332

Matt Treanor-.229/.328/.318

Reggie Abercrombie-.212/.271/.333

Lastings Milledge-.241/.310/.380

Chris Woodward-.211/.289/.311

Kazuo Matsui-.200/.235/.269

Sal Fasano-.243/.284/.386

Abraham Nunez-.211/.303/.277

Jose Guillen-.216/.276/.398

Robert Fick-.266/.324/.344

Marlon Byrd-.223/.317/.350

Damian Jackson-.198/.295/.371

Royce Clayton-.269/.315/.348

Brian Schneider-.256/.320/.329

Bernie Castro-.227/.286/.291

 

Remember when everyone on this board, myself included, wanted the Cubs to go after Kaz for our long-term solution at SS. Don't we all look foolish now. Not pursuing Kaz may be the best decision Hendry ever made.

[CubColtPacer]

T Pagan wasn't quite as bad as expected for the Cubs last year, hitting .247/.306/.394 in 170 at-bats

 

I don't know what you expected but that is about as bad a line as it gets.

 

Maybe he expected him to be more like these NL East players who got at least 100 AB's:

 

Pete Orr-.253/.277/.344

Todd Pratt-.207/.272/.341

Alfredo Amezaga-.260/.332/.332

Matt Treanor-.229/.328/.318

Reggie Abercrombie-.212/.271/.333

Lastings Milledge-.241/.310/.380

Chris Woodward-.211/.289/.311

Kazuo Matsui-.200/.235/.269

Sal Fasano-.243/.284/.386

Abraham Nunez-.211/.303/.277

Jose Guillen-.216/.276/.398

Robert Fick-.266/.324/.344

Marlon Byrd-.223/.317/.350

Damian Jackson-.198/.295/.371

Royce Clayton-.269/.315/.348

Brian Schneider-.256/.320/.329

Bernie Castro-.227/.286/.291

 

Remember when everyone on this board, myself included, wanted the Cubs to go after Kaz for our long-term solution at SS. Don't we all look foolish now. Not pursuing Kaz may be the best decision Hendry ever made.

 

To be fair, when I posted those numbers, I was looking at the different team statistics-so Matsui's numbers there are only his time with the Mets. He was very, very good after going to the Rockies last year-so good in fact that it even raised his overall OPS between the two clubs to 679 :D

[abuck1220]

two years ago we would have been begging for Pagan to play over CPatt

 

speak for yourself.

[Omar]

I would do Pagan, Izzy, and even Cedeno for Hanley Ramirez.

[elinas]

I would do Pagan, Izzy, and even Cedeno for Hanley Ramirez.

I hope you are being facetious because there is no way in heck the Marlins do that trade.

[texascub]

Lets trade Pagan to Baltimore for CPat. They seem to be our only trade partners here recently anyway.

[Guancous]

I would do Pagan, Izzy, and even Cedeno for Hanley Ramirez.

I hope you are being facetious because there is no way in heck the Marlins do that trade.

 

You're right. Let's have the Marlins toss in Josh Willingham to be our backup catcher.