The Bears Offseason Thread

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Wade Wilson was hired by the Cowboys to be QB coach.

 

:|

 

Gah. Haven't seen the official word anywhere, where did you hear/read it?

 

ETA: Sounds like Hardy Nickerson will be the new LB coach and Mississippi State's Brick Haley will be the new DL coach.

Edited February 22, 2007 by CaliforniaRaisin

[Chocolate Milk]

Wade Wilson was hired by the Cowboys to be QB coach.

 

:|

 

Gah. Haven't seen it anywhere, where did you hear/read it?

 

Just heard it on the Score. No link that I know of.

[CuseCubFan69]

I suppose the wading is over for Cowboy fans.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

apparently Briggs is pissed off that the Bears applied the franchise tag to him. Have we already discussed this? I don't want to be a johnny come lately; haven't been reading this thread.

 

I've heard about it, Lance will get over it.

 

This is pretty blatant "negotiating in the media" by Lovie's agent. And Mortenson is a pretty blatant sucker for these stories.

 

I'm not too concerned.

 

Me either until i hear numbers. FWIW Brian Billick just signed a 4 year extension, prior to that on Jan. 17 he signded a one year contract at $5.4M. Lovie should be in his neighborhood.

 

Guys.... you should be worried.... the bears arent even near offerring 5 million which is exactly where the market dictates his pay range. This is a cheap org. regardless of the massive amount of profit that this team enjoys.

 

Where have you actually heard how much the Bears have offered?

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/bears/268372,CST-SPT-bear22.article

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-070221lovie,1,5582293.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2774459

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/sports/268428,221SPT1.article

 

Barry Rozner wrote a pretty good article about this situation

http://www.dailyherald.com/sports/rozner.asp?id=283715

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Wade Wilson was hired by the Cowboys to be QB coach.

 

:|

 

Gah. Haven't seen it anywhere, where did you hear/read it?

 

Just heard it on the Score. No link that I know of.

 

Ok, thanks.

 

Thoughts on potential replacements? This is a big offseason for Rex and he obviously could use a good QB coach.

[Banedon]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

[goonys evil twin]

The Bears coaching staff was quite raw, especially when it came to NFL experience, in Lovie's first year. Hardy Nickerson and another college DLine coach just means even less experience on the staff. I'm hoping they get somebody who can actually help with the QB position, but the fact of the matter is, the Turner/Grossman relationship is of far greater importance. The new QB coach won't make or break Rex.

[goonys evil twin]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

[Chocolate Milk]

Hardy Nickerson was the bomb in Tecmo Bowl.

[Banedon]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

 

Is going from being the QB coach on a Super Bowl team to being the QB coach on the Cowboys a better job?

[CubColtPacer]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

 

Is going from being the QB coach on a Super Bowl team to being the QB coach on the Cowboys a better job?

 

It might be when your QB is getting soundly criticized (deserved or no) and eventually some of the blame might fall on you, and instead you go to a job where you're more predisposed to be a success and to continue to move up the coaching ranks.

[goonys evil twin]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

 

Is going from being the QB coach on a Super Bowl team to being the QB coach on the Cowboys a better job?

 

When it pays more it is.

[Banedon]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

 

Is going from being the QB coach on a Super Bowl team to being the QB coach on the Cowboys a better job?

 

It might be when your QB is getting soundly criticized (deserved or no) and eventually some of the blame might fall on you, and instead you go to a job where you're more predisposed to be a success and to continue to move up the coaching ranks.

 

Why is gowing from Grossman to Romo more redisposed to success? Dallas arguably has a bigger national following, at least from the media, than Chicago, so the scrutiny isn't going to be any less.

[Brian]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

 

Is going from being the QB coach on a Super Bowl team to being the QB coach on the Cowboys a better job?

 

more money

[Banedon]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

 

Is going from being the QB coach on a Super Bowl team to being the QB coach on the Cowboys a better job?

 

When it pays more it is.

 

That would be where the crux of it is, huh?

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Also, Wade Wilson played for and coached the Cowboys in the past.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

The Bears coaching staff was quite raw, especially when it came to NFL experience, in Lovie's first year. Hardy Nickerson and another college DLine coach just means even less experience on the staff. I'm hoping they get somebody who can actually help with the QB position, but the fact of the matter is, the Turner/Grossman relationship is of far greater importance. The new QB coach won't make or break Rex.

 

Agreed on the Turner-Grossman part, but a new QB coach could really benefit Rex.

[CubColtPacer]

I lot of coaching flux for a Super Bowl team.

 

I don't think it's that rare. Lots of lower tier coaches find better jobs elsewhere after team success.

 

Is going from being the QB coach on a Super Bowl team to being the QB coach on the Cowboys a better job?

 

It might be when your QB is getting soundly criticized (deserved or no) and eventually some of the blame might fall on you, and instead you go to a job where you're more predisposed to be a success and to continue to move up the coaching ranks.

 

Why is gowing from Grossman to Romo more redisposed to success? Dallas arguably has a bigger national following, at least from the media, than Chicago, so the scrutiny isn't going to be any less.

 

They have more weapons, and plus at this point people are looking for anything to pick Grossman apart with-if it be deserved or not, Romo's going to get a little more of a free pass to have some bad games next year IMO. Plus, many people see the Chicago QB position as the difference between them and a title, so that brings even more scrutiny and pressure to live up to expectations.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Cheap org? These are the same guys that got lambasted for overpaying Ogun, Moose, TJ, Griese, Tait.

 

Im not the only bears fan to question the ownership's frugal-ness. Those players have large contracts but the Bears are still 21 million under the cap. I have no problem with how much they do or dont pay players. I mean I wouldnt want the team to be in the cap hell that the titans, 49ners were or the redskins or colts are now.

 

I just think it sucks that with how bad this team has been over the last 15 years, they finally get a solid head coach who takes them to the super bowl, and there offer is a 2 million dollars less a year than Bobby Petrino, a rookie NFL Head Coach or a couple hundred thousand dollars more than the Dolphins Defensive Coordinator.

 

Its not like they are the Jaguars who are a small market team, and are not pulling in a lot of profit. They are near the top of the league in profits in the third largest market.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Also, Wade Wilson played for and coached the Cowboys in the past.

 

His family lives in texas also.

[goonys evil twin]

They have more weapons, and plus at this point people are looking for anything to pick Grossman apart with-if it be deserved or not, Romo's going to get a little more of a free pass to have some bad games next year IMO. Plus, many people see the Chicago QB position as the difference between them and a title, so that brings even more scrutiny and pressure to live up to expectations.

 

I don't see how any of that means he's more predisposed to success and moving up the ladder. Dallas just hired a purported QB guru. Wilson isn't going to get any credit if Romo does well. If Grossman gets better, people are going to credit the current coaches. Parcells will get all the Romo credit, along with some for Garrett.

[CubColtPacer]

Cheap org? These are the same guys that got lambasted for overpaying Ogun, Moose, TJ, Griese, Tait.

 

Im not the only bears fan to question the ownership's frugal-ness. Those players have large contracts but the Bears are still 21 million under the cap. I have no problem with how much they do or dont pay players. I mean I wouldnt want the team to be in the cap hell that the titans, 49ners were or the redskins or colts are now.

 

I just think it sucks that with how bad this team has been over the last 15 years, they finally get a solid head coach who takes them to the super bowl, and there offer is a 2 million dollars less a year than Bobby Petrino, a rookie NFL Head Coach or a couple hundred thousand dollars more than the Dolphins Defensive Coordinator.

 

Its not like they are the Jaguars who are a small market team, and are not pulling in a lot of profit. They are near the top of the league in profits in the third largest market.

 

Uh, the Colts are 7-8 million dollars under the cap even after franchising Freeney, and they still have some easy work that's going to get them even further under. They don't really have cap problems.

[CubColtPacer]

They have more weapons, and plus at this point people are looking for anything to pick Grossman apart with-if it be deserved or not, Romo's going to get a little more of a free pass to have some bad games next year IMO. Plus, many people see the Chicago QB position as the difference between them and a title, so that brings even more scrutiny and pressure to live up to expectations.

 

I don't see how any of that means he's more predisposed to success and moving up the ladder. Dallas just hired a purported QB guru. Wilson isn't going to get any credit if Romo does well. If Grossman gets better, people are going to credit the current coaches. Parcells will get all the Romo credit, along with some for Garrett.

 

Very good points-I guess I'm wrong on this one :D

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Cheap org? These are the same guys that got lambasted for overpaying Ogun, Moose, TJ, Griese, Tait.

 

Im not the only bears fan to question the ownership's frugal-ness. Those players have large contracts but the Bears are still 21 million under the cap. I have no problem with how much they do or dont pay players. I mean I wouldnt want the team to be in the cap hell that the titans, 49ners were or the redskins or colts are now.

 

I just think it sucks that with how bad this team has been over the last 15 years, they finally get a solid head coach who takes them to the super bowl, and there offer is a 2 million dollars less a year than Bobby Petrino, a rookie NFL Head Coach or a couple hundred thousand dollars more than the Dolphins Defensive Coordinator.

 

Its not like they are the Jaguars who are a small market team, and are not pulling in a lot of profit. They are near the top of the league in profits in the third largest market.

 

Uh, the Colts are 7-8 million dollars under the cap even after franchising Freeney, and they still have some easy work that's going to get them even further under. They don't really have cap problems.

 

I got that from John Clayton who said that the Colts are 5.9 million over.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

[CubColtPacer]

Cheap org? These are the same guys that got lambasted for overpaying Ogun, Moose, TJ, Griese, Tait.

 

Im not the only bears fan to question the ownership's frugal-ness. Those players have large contracts but the Bears are still 21 million under the cap. I have no problem with how much they do or dont pay players. I mean I wouldnt want the team to be in the cap hell that the titans, 49ners were or the redskins or colts are now.

 

I just think it sucks that with how bad this team has been over the last 15 years, they finally get a solid head coach who takes them to the super bowl, and there offer is a 2 million dollars less a year than Bobby Petrino, a rookie NFL Head Coach or a couple hundred thousand dollars more than the Dolphins Defensive Coordinator.

 

Its not like they are the Jaguars who are a small market team, and are not pulling in a lot of profit. They are near the top of the league in profits in the third largest market.

 

Uh, the Colts are 7-8 million dollars under the cap even after franchising Freeney, and they still have some easy work that's going to get them even further under. They don't really have cap problems.

 

I got that from John Clayton who said that the Colts are 5.9 million over.

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

 

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