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  1. 1. Poll: You vs. Dusty

    • Absolutely
      27
    • Probably, but it would be close
      16
    • Probably not, but not by a lot
      11
    • No way
      8


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Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

 

It gives you the respect of the players, which is more than any ability to pull together a lineup. It's the same as any job: if you don't have respect for your boss, would you do a good job?

 

The way the baseball world works you have to put in your time in the minors, in the front office, etc. for the major league level. It's an old-school mentality that wouldn't readily accept a manager who has no playing experience.

Of course. There are questions of "would you do what your boss told you to", but with baseball, doing a good job is generally straightforward. Get on base. Keep the opposition from getting on base.

I disagree with the straightforwardness of doing a good job. A guy with 40 homers and a .320 OBP will get a better contract than a guy at 20 HR/ .360 OBP. So I would think a player would do better for himself at the expense of the team by swinging for the fences every at-bat.

I submit that the negative differences between these two hypotheticals is less than the impact of batting neifi 600 times a season

Maybe. But what happens when 24 guys are playing for themselves (assuming Neifi must be the 25th by your scenario)?

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Dusty has a huge advantage over all of us, and that is, he used to play baseball. It doesnt matter how good he was, because players like Ozzie or Tony La Russa have become great managers... But the fact is that he's played, and knows the game professionally.

 

Other than that, we'd be better managers in terms of line-ups, defense, pitching...

I respectfully disagree. I don't see how playing the game does anything to make you more likely to be a better manager.

 

It gives you the respect of the players, which is more than any ability to pull together a lineup. It's the same as any job: if you don't have respect for your boss, would you do a good job?

 

The way the baseball world works you have to put in your time in the minors, in the front office, etc. for the major league level. It's an old-school mentality that wouldn't readily accept a manager who has no playing experience.

 

A great coach is a great coach...has nothing to do with his ability as a ball-player. I do see where you are coming from and the Good Old boy system, but esptablish yourself hard, yet respectful the first couple weeks, show that you have knowledge of the game and surround yourself with good people (Atlanta braves for 10 yrs)

 

It is the people around you that can make you look even better and how they are used. It is like the Presidency, bewing a senator and congressmen can only give you a hint of what the job is really like. Nobody knows until they get in there. teh great Pres. surroundd themselve with great people same with MLB managing

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I voted absoloutley.

 

I could fill out a lineup, handle pitchers, complete a double switch, and know what a walk is one hundred and fifty times better than Dusty ever could. The only problem i would have is being a 17 year old in the clubhouse with a group of 25 professional big leaguers who would probably respect me about as much as hitters respect glendon rusch.

 

That doesn't sound like an absolutely to me. I think the clubhouse plays a rather large part of the equation.

 

Maybe, But I'd like to think they'd at least give me a chance, whether they respected me or not. And once we started winning some games, then respect would probably grow. Respect is earned.

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