Ron Santo

[hawkcub]

I was listening to this Radio Program this morning called Diamond Jems. There program today was what they called a tribute to Ron Santo. They were basically talking about how he deserves to be in the HOF. They brought up the '69 team of course. In the course of this they said that this team was hated and all of the other teams were doing every thing they could to have the Mets over take them. They said that teams would play nothing but rookies against the Mets. While there best players would play against the Cubs. They also sited a case where the Cardinal Ace (forgot his name) was pitched on two days rest, when his next start was supposed to be against the Mets. Is there any validity to these claims. I always thought this team just ran out of gas. Edited May 6, 2006 by hawkcub

[NCCubFan]

I'd never heard anything like this before.

 

And the Cardinal ace you're thinking of was Bob Gibson.

[cubfan1955]

No, it's not true. I was watching the whole season. The Cardinals had plans on winning the division and they were favored to do so early in the year. The Cubs and Cardinals were both so focused on each other that by the time the Mets overtook both of them it was too late. During the 1969 season Harry Caray would sing "The Cardinals are coming ho ho ha ha hee hee" to taunt Cubs fans on radio broadcasts.

[Fred Hornkohl]

No, it's not true. I was watching the whole season. The Cardinals had plans on winning the division and they were favored to do so early in the year. The Cubs and Cardinals were both so focused on each other that by the time the Mets overtook both of them it was too late. During the 1969 season Harry Caray would sing "The Cardinals are coming ho ho ha ha hee hee" to taunt Cubs fans on radio broadcasts.

 

I concur with NCCubbieFan & cubsfan1955 about not hearing of any such shenanigins during the '69 season. I would just like to point out, for any of our younger fans that might not already realize it, that while Harry Carey was taunting the CUBS in 1969 as mentiioned, he was broadcasting for the Cardinals.

[cubtastic]

I was listening to this Radio Program this morning called Diamond Jems. There program today was what they called a tribute to Ron Santo. They were basically talking about how he deserves to be in the HOF. They brought up the '69 team of course. In the course of this they said that this team was hated and all of the other teams were doing every thing they could to have the Mets over take them. They said that teams would play nothing but rookies against the Mets. While there best players would play against the Cubs. They also sited a case where the Cardinal Ace (forgot his name) was pitched on two days rest, when his next start was supposed to be against the Mets. Is there any validity to these claims. I always thought this team just ran out of gas.

 

I heard part of this program this morning as well, and remember them also saying he isnt in the HOF is because he made so many people, who are now on the veterans committee, mad at him by clicking his heels in NY, and that the cubs already had 3 Hofer's from that team.

Go Cubs--p.s. I'm not wearing any Cubs clothing, hats, or jerseys until they score at least 4 or more runs in 1 game (Win or Lose)

[Fred Hornkohl]

I was listening to this Radio Program this morning called Diamond Jems. There program today was what they called a tribute to Ron Santo. They were basically talking about how he deserves to be in the HOF. They brought up the '69 team of course. In the course of this they said that this team was hated and all of the other teams were doing every thing they could to have the Mets over take them. They said that teams would play nothing but rookies against the Mets. While there best players would play against the Cubs. They also sited a case where the Cardinal Ace (forgot his name) was pitched on two days rest, when his next start was supposed to be against the Mets. Is there any validity to these claims. I always thought this team just ran out of gas.

 

I heard part of this program this morning as well, and remember them also saying he isnt in the HOF is because he made so many people, who are now on the veterans committee, mad at him by clicking his heels in NY, and that the cubs already had 3 Hofer's from that team.

Go Cubs--p.s. I'm not wearing any Cubs clothing, hats, or jerseys until they score at least 4 or more runs in 1 game (Win or Lose)

 

Santo never once clicked his heels in NY. That routine was limited exclusively to Wrigley Field. Yes, it did make a lot of people mad, and I'm sure that they haven't forgotten it to this day. But remember, those veterans committee members were not the ones voting for the HOF from '79 through '04 when Santo was going through his period of eligibility; it was the sportswriters. The veterans committee, which holds Santo's fate now, has, to the best of my memory, never voted anybody in.

 

In the final analysis, there are 9 thirdbasemen in the hall of fame who played in the major leagues. Ron Santo, arguably, has better numbers than 6 of them. The whole system is a joke !!!

[cubtastic]

I was listening to this Radio Program this morning called Diamond Jems. There program today was what they called a tribute to Ron Santo. They were basically talking about how he deserves to be in the HOF. They brought up the '69 team of course. In the course of this they said that this team was hated and all of the other teams were doing every thing they could to have the Mets over take them. They said that teams would play nothing but rookies against the Mets. While there best players would play against the Cubs. They also sited a case where the Cardinal Ace (forgot his name) was pitched on two days rest, when his next start was supposed to be against the Mets. Is there any validity to these claims. I always thought this team just ran out of gas.

 

I heard part of this program this morning as well, and remember them also saying he isnt in the HOF is because he made so many people, who are now on the veterans committee, mad at him by clicking his heels in NY, and that the cubs already had 3 Hofer's from that team.

Go Cubs--p.s. I'm not wearing any Cubs clothing, hats, or jerseys until they score at least 4 or more runs in 1 game (Win or Lose)

 

Santo never once clicked his heels in NY. That routine was limited exclusively to Wrigley Field. Yes, it did make a lot of people mad, and I'm sure that they haven't forgotten it to this day. But remember, those veterans committee members were not the ones voting for the HOF from '79 through '04 when Santo was going through his period of eligibility; it was the sportswriters. The veterans committee, which holds Santo's fate now, has, to the best of my memory, never voted anybody in.

 

In the final analysis, there are 9 thirdbasemen in the hall of fame who played in the major leagues. Ron Santo, arguably, has better numbers than 6 of them. The whole system is a joke !!!

 

 

I understand this... :lol: just repeating what they were talking about on the radio this morning about 6 am. Thats what the boys on 1650 were sayin' not I....I think every Cub fan knows Ron has gotten hosed on the Hof deal. That's what 6 a.m. Saturday morning radio will do for ya!

[hawkcub]

 

I understand this... :lol: just repeating what they were talking about on the radio this morning about 6 am. Thats what the boys on 1650 were sayin' not I....I think every Cub fan knows Ron has gotten hosed on the Hof deal. That's what 6 a.m. Saturday morning radio will do for ya!

 

That wasn't a local program. It seems they may have gotten some of there facts wrong none the less.