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Chicago Cubs pitcher Kerry Wood will throw to hitters for the first time this spring on Friday in Las Vegas, pitching coach Larry Rothschild said.

 

As expected, the Cubs placed Wood and Mark Prior on the disabled list Tuesday. It will be the second straight season Prior has opened on the DL. Both have shoulder issues -- Wood is rehabbing from arthroscopic surgery in late August, while Prior has a moderate strain of the subscapularis muscle.

 

Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April. Prior is out indefinitely.

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bold prediction. wood = comeback player of the year.

not so bold prediction. up and down the dl.

 

i'll hope for one, not be surprised at the other.

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bold prediction. wood = comeback player of the year.

not so bold prediction. up and down the dl.

 

i'll hope for one, not be surprised at the other.

 

Why would you hope he's up and down the dl? Why???

 

I believe he meant that he would hope for Kerry to come back and pitch well enough to be worthy of Comeback Player, and be disappointed but not surprised if he keeps shuttling back and forth between the DL.

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Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April.

 

I'm not too surprised about Wood's progress. I don't like the sound of this:

 

Prior is out indefinitely.

They just haven't set a timeframe since it's too early to tell. Being out indefinitely doesn't mean much.

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jon always with the awesome Z quotes!

He should really have his own blog if he promises to limit the time on his computer. That's from the latest Cubs.com article. Apparently Angel stays at his house at times.

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jon always with the awesome Z quotes!

He should really have his own blog if he promises to limit the time on his computer. That's from the latest Cubs.com article. Apparently Angel stays at his house at times.

 

that would be awesome.

 

"Today I pitch pretty good against the Cardinals, one of them got a hit. Ok gotta go make something to eat."

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Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April.

 

I'm not too surprised about Wood's progress. I don't like the sound of this:

 

Prior is out indefinitely.

They just haven't set a timeframe since it's too early to tell. Being out indefinitely doesn't mean much.

 

It means he's out for awhile. It shouldn't be sugarcoated.

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jon always with the awesome Z quotes!

He should really have his own blog if he promises to limit the time on his computer. That's from the latest Cubs.com article. Apparently Angel stays at his house at times.

 

that would be awesome.

 

"Today I pitch pretty good against the Cardinals, one of them got a hit. Ok gotta go make something to eat."

 

Z would have said something along the lines of, "Next time I will kill him for getting a hit."

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Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April.

 

I'm not too surprised about Wood's progress. I don't like the sound of this:

 

Prior is out indefinitely.

They just haven't set a timeframe since it's too early to tell. Being out indefinitely doesn't mean much.

 

It means he's out for awhile. It shouldn't be sugarcoated.

Being out indefinitely is about as general as one can get. It doesn't differentiate between being a month away and being four months away. All it means is that they have yet to determine when they expect him to be activated from the DL. It says nothing about health or progress, just that it's too soon to tell when he should be back if all goes as they plan. There's no sugarcoating. It's just the quickest way of saying what we already knew.

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Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April.

 

I'm not too surprised about Wood's progress. I don't like the sound of this:

 

Prior is out indefinitely.

They just haven't set a timeframe since it's too early to tell. Being out indefinitely doesn't mean much.

 

It means he's out for awhile. It shouldn't be sugarcoated.

Being out indefinitely is about as general as one can get. It doesn't differentiate between being a month away and being four months away. All it means is that they have yet to determine when they expect him to be activated from the DL. It says nothing about health or progress, just that it's too soon to tell when he should be back if all goes as they plan. There's no sugarcoating. It's just the quickest way of saying what we already knew.

 

You said it didn't mean much. If you mean that the actual timeline is not set then yes, you are right. It DOES however mean the situation is not good.

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Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April.

 

I'm not too surprised about Wood's progress. I don't like the sound of this:

 

Prior is out indefinitely.

They just haven't set a timeframe since it's too early to tell. Being out indefinitely doesn't mean much.

 

It means he's out for awhile. It shouldn't be sugarcoated.

Being out indefinitely is about as general as one can get. It doesn't differentiate between being a month away and being four months away. All it means is that they have yet to determine when they expect him to be activated from the DL. It says nothing about health or progress, just that it's too soon to tell when he should be back if all goes as they plan. There's no sugarcoating. It's just the quickest way of saying what we already knew.

 

You said it didn't mean much. If you mean that the actual timeline is not set then yes, you are right. It DOES however mean the situation is not good.

It doesn't mean much in terms of any developing news. He was out indefinitely once they shut him down. Him being out is certainly not good, but if anything, the situation has improved since the tests were done because of the diagnosis and him throwing long toss. The way his current status was stated isn't any cause for concern in and of itself.

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Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April.

 

I'm not too surprised about Wood's progress. I don't like the sound of this:

 

Prior is out indefinitely.

They just haven't set a timeframe since it's too early to tell. Being out indefinitely doesn't mean much.

 

It means he's out for awhile. It shouldn't be sugarcoated.

Being out indefinitely is about as general as one can get. It doesn't differentiate between being a month away and being four months away. All it means is that they have yet to determine when they expect him to be activated from the DL. It says nothing about health or progress, just that it's too soon to tell when he should be back if all goes as they plan. There's no sugarcoating. It's just the quickest way of saying what we already knew.

 

You said it didn't mean much. If you mean that the actual timeline is not set then yes, you are right. It DOES however mean the situation is not good.

It doesn't mean much in terms of any developing news. He was out indefinitely once they shut him down. Him being out is certainly not good, but if anything, the situation has improved since the tests were done because of the diagnosis and him throwing long toss. The way his current status was stated isn't any cause for concern in and of itself.

 

I still can't believe you listen to the way Cubs describe his current status and actually believe it. When he starts throwing to batters again, I won't feel concerned about his status.

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bold prediction. wood = comeback player of the year.

not so bold prediction. up and down the dl.

 

i'll hope for one, not be surprised at the other.

 

Why would you hope he's up and down the dl? Why???

 

I believe he meant that he would hope for Kerry to come back and pitch well enough to be worthy of Comeback Player, and be disappointed but not surprised if he keeps shuttling back and forth between the DL.

 

I believe he was joking. :wink:

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It doesn't mean much in terms of any developing news. He was out indefinitely once they shut him down. Him being out is certainly not good, but if anything, the situation has improved since the tests were done because of the diagnosis and him throwing long toss. The way his current status was stated isn't any cause for concern in and of itself.

 

I still can't believe you listen to the way Cubs describe his current status and actually believe it. When he starts throwing to batters again, I won't feel concerned about his status.

He was shut down for 11 days or so, he was diagnosed with a mild strain in one of his rotator cuff muscles by a well-respected doctor, and threw some long toss without pain (at least he didn't feel any pain as he was throwing). Those are all well documented and I think we can all draw conclusions as to where he currently is right now. It doesn't take a doctor to evaluate what's going on. If things go well (and no matter how good the training staff is, nobody can possibly predict setbacks), he's over a month away.

 

I'm not sure what you think the Cubs are saying about his status. As I posted in the other thread, they've specifically said that he isn't fully healthy yet and have to be real careful to monitor the injury as they try to build up arm strength. There's a very real chance that he could reaggrevate it before it's fully healed and they're well aware of that. They haven't set a timeframe because they really don't know how long it's going to take him to get to the next step. They're actually saying very little about his status in that regard.

 

And I'm certainly not suggesting that we shouldn't be concerned about his current status. Neither are the Cubs. This injury has already pushed him back pretty far and has the ability to delay him even more. I think they'd be the first to say that.

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Although the team can't say when Wood will be ready, he's making steady progress and might be activated in late April.

 

I'm not too surprised about Wood's progress. I don't like the sound of this:

 

Prior is out indefinitely.

They just haven't set a timeframe since it's too early to tell. Being out indefinitely doesn't mean much.

 

It means he's out for awhile. It shouldn't be sugarcoated.

Being out indefinitely is about as general as one can get. It doesn't differentiate between being a month away and being four months away. All it means is that they have yet to determine when they expect him to be activated from the DL. It says nothing about health or progress, just that it's too soon to tell when he should be back if all goes as they plan. There's no sugarcoating. It's just the quickest way of saying what we already knew.

 

I might mean 'we're sick of getting taken to task by the media and fans for giving expected return dates that don't work out, so we're not going to say anything at all.'

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I might mean 'we're sick of getting taken to task by the media and fans for giving expected return dates that don't work out, so we're not going to say anything at all.'

Possibly for Prior, though they haven't been too hesitent to talk about Wood's return (at least Hendry and Baker). But it does seem just too soon to tell with Prior, especially after only a couple of throwing sessions.

 

There's an interest quote from Rothschild on Cubs.com about Prior:

Cubs.com[/url]"]Prior update: Fellow right-hander Mark Prior also is coming back from arm trouble and will begin the season on the disabled list. After resting for nearly two weeks, he threw on flat ground on Thursday for Rothschild and on Friday for trainer Mike O'Neal.

 

"It's been good to see where he is," Rothschild said of the two sessions. "Even with the 13 days off, he didn't lose a whole lot, and he might have actually gained some. ... The ball is coming out with some force. We can progress him as his daily work allows."

Not sure how that works, but it would be great if he didn't lose much arm strength.

 

As for Wood:

Wood, who hasn't pitched in a game since undergoing shoulder surgery last August, faced hitters for the first time this spring in a 25-pitch batting practice session, under the close watch of pitching coach Larry Rothschild. After the session, Wood said he felt good, and although he wouldn't set a timetable for his return, he was pleased with what he's been able to accomplish this spring.

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Rothschild said Wood did a full long-toss program before he took the mound, which not only gets him warmed up but also helps increase his arm strength.

 

"As we do more throwing, it takes a little longer to get loose because we're trying to tire his arm out to build it up, and he hasn't been having any problems," Rothschild said. "He loosens up fine after about 30 [throws]. That may be a routine he's got to keep."

 

Wood focused on throwing fastballs on Friday, although he did mix in a few curves.

 

"He threw some breaking balls today -- we're really concentrating more on building arm strength," Rothschild said. "We'll spin the ball some, but I don't really worry about the breaking ball as much as some other pitches until the arm strength gets built up. Those things will come back."

 

Wood's next step will be another batting practice session in Mesa, Ariz., where he'll continue his rehab while the rest of the team heads north to start the regular season.

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