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wow, if the last two ab's (walker's and murton's) don't show you how stupid it would be to trade walker for another lf, i don't know what will.

 

No one has ever said Walker can't hit, but his fielding is very suspect espically with the bad leg. Don't you view him as an more of a American League guy?

 

His leg is fine.

 

Regardless you have to agree his a bad defender...

 

No I don't. I agree he leaves something to be desired, but I don't believe he is bad. He does not lose games with his glove (anymore than most others that is).

 

I tend to disagree. I've seen plenty of games he couldn't turn 2 or couldn't make the easy play. His range is really poor. I just want someone with better range. With a Cedeno at SS you want someone solid at 2nd base.

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I tend to disagree. I've seen plenty of games he couldn't turn 2 or couldn't make the easy play. His range is really poor. I just want someone with better range. With a Cedeno at SS you want someone solid at 2nd base.

 

and with rusch, williams, maddux and hill in the rotation, you need someone that can hit the freaking ball.

 

damn it, hill...4-2.

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wow, if the last two ab's (walker's and murton's) don't show you how stupid it would be to trade walker for another lf, i don't know what will.

 

No one has ever said Walker can't hit, but his fielding is very suspect espically with the bad leg. Don't you view him as an more of a American League guy?

 

His leg is fine.

 

Regardless you have to agree his a bad defender...

 

No I don't. I agree he leaves something to be desired, but I don't believe he is bad. He does not lose games with his glove (anymore than most others that is).

 

I tend to disagree. I've seen plenty of games he couldn't turn 2 or couldn't make the easy play. His range is really poor. I just want someone with better range. With a Cedeno at SS you want someone solid at 2nd base.

 

I don't get it. If anything, Cedeno makes the second baseman better.

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BOTTOM OF THE FIRST INNING

 

Figgins bunted out to first base, unassisted

Cabrera walked

Guerrero struck out swinging

Rivera doubled to center field, Cabrera scored

Salmon doubled to left center field, Rivera scored

Kotchman grounded out to second, 4-3

 

2 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS          4                    4 5 0 
LAA of A      2                    2 2 0 

 

pitcher     IP  H  R ER BB  K HR 
Hill       1.0  2  2  2  1  1  0 

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rich hill sucks :lol:

 

I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch.

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I tend to disagree. I've seen plenty of games he couldn't turn 2 or couldn't make the easy play. His range is really poor. I just want someone with better range. With a Cedeno at SS you want someone solid at 2nd base.

 

and with rusch, williams, maddux and hill in the rotation, you need someone that can hit the freaking ball.

 

damn it, hill...4-2.

 

Defense and pitching wins.

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Walks kill ya. He's gotta have command if he's going to move forward. He followed up a good approach with Vlad with back-to-back hits.
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I tend to disagree. I've seen plenty of games he couldn't turn 2 or couldn't make the easy play. His range is really poor. I just want someone with better range. With a Cedeno at SS you want someone solid at 2nd base.

 

and with rusch, williams, maddux and hill in the rotation, you need someone that can hit the freaking ball.

 

damn it, hill...4-2.

 

Defense and pitching wins.

 

Pitching wins, offense helps, and defense contributes a little. The Cubs have shady pitching, and desperately need all the offense they can get.

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rich hill sucks :lol:

 

I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch.

 

He blew Vlad away with two FB's up in the zone.

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TOP OF THE SECOND INNING

 

Soto singled to center field

Pierre grounde into a DP, 6-4-3, Soto out at second

Hairston grounded out to third, 5-3

 

0 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base

 

              1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9    R H E
CUBS          4 0                  4 6 0 
LAA of A      2                    2 2 0 

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rich hill sucks :lol:

 

I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch.

 

He blew Vlad away with two FB's up in the zone.

 

But if we keep saying he has 1 pitch then it will be true eventually.

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rich hill sucks :lol:

 

I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch.

 

He blew Vlad away with two FB's up in the zone.

 

Big deal! He still gave up 2 runs in the first inning. Can you honestly say Rich Hill has impressed you. At all?

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rich hill sucks :lol:

 

I'm still waiting for his talent to shine. I mean basically he hasn't shown anything but a above average to great curve ball. I know he's only got 20 innings under his belt in the bigs, but I can't see how in the world you are going to be an effective starter with 1 pitch.

 

He just struck out Vlad with a fastball, so I wouldn't say he's a one pitch kid. Still, he's too wild and it's going to hurt him in the bigs. It's like jekyll and hyde. One AB, gives up the rocket double. The next batter he makes look [expletive]. I'm not sold either.

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