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I'm reading through my new Cubs journal and decided to go back and relive the 2003 season (minus the last 11 innings). One thing that caught my eye was one point in middle of the season where it says that, on July 21st, the Cubs beat the Pirates 15-6 at Wrigley field the day after beating the Marlins 16-2 in Miami.

 

I don't remember the exact date, but I DO remember going to a Cubs-Braves game in middle of the summer in Atlanta in which the Cubs won 15-6. I also remember that this was the day after the Cubs played in Florida and beat the Marlins 16-2.

 

Does anyone know where I can find a 2003 schedule of the Cubs so I can verify that I'm not on crack here? Also, if the journal was wrong about both the team and the city in which the game occured, does this logically introduce the possibility that there are other games/stats in the journal that are less credible? (In its summary of the 2000 decade through the end of the '05 season, it describes the acquisition of Alou as the best move the team has made in that span, so that also introduces the possibility of lower credibility.)

 

This is the book entitled "Cubs Journal" by Dan Snyder, btw. Does anyone else have it? What are your thoughts on the book? I've only been reading it for a couple hours so far, so I still haven't gotten through too much of it.

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I'm reading through my new Cubs journal and decided to go back and relive the 2003 season (minus the last 11 innings). One thing that caught my eye was one point in middle of the season where it says that, on July 21st, the Cubs beat the Pirates 15-6 at Wrigley field the day after beating the Marlins 16-2 in Miami.

 

I don't remember the exact date, but I DO remember going to a Cubs-Braves game in middle of the summer in Atlanta in which the Cubs won 15-6. I also remember that this was the day after the Cubs played in Florida and beat the Marlins 16-2.

According to Retrosheet the Cubs beat Florida 16-2 on July 20 and beat Atlanta 15-6 the next day. You can look up results and box scores for any date. The Cubs' 2004 media guide shows day-by-day results for the 2003 season, but I'm not sure if any web site has that information. I'm not sure if cubs.com has that information for 2003 or not.

 

EDIT: Baseball Reference has what you're looking for.

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Straight from the horse's mouth.

Cubs.com

 

Marlins

Zambrano hurts Marlins from both plate, mound

By Carrie Muskat / MLB.com

Starter Carlos Zambrano drove in two runs on three hits with his bat and held the Marlins to one run on six hits with his pitching arm as the Cubs cruised to a win.

 

Braves

Cubs break out the offense

By Erik A. Carlson / MLB.com

 

ATLANTA -- The Cubs bats were in good working order Monday night and overcame a shaky start by Shawn Estes to down the NL East leading Braves, 15-6, at Turner Field for their third straight win in front of 39,950 Cub-friendly fans.

 

The first four Cubs runs came from the bat of Sammy Sosa, who has been on fire against the Braves this season going 13-for-21 with four home runs. Sosa hit a 411-foot, three-run homer against right-hander Shane Reynolds in the first inning and drove in another run in the second.

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Yep, that happened and I was pumped because I was on vacation in Chicago and was gonna see the Cubs host the Phillies in the game after the short two game series with Atlanta. I was so pumped because the offense was on fire and the Cubs had just acquired Aramis Ramirez and Kenny Lofton. Of course, they lost 3-0 with K-Lo, Aram, and Sammy coming with an 0-12.
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I'm reading through my new Cubs journal and decided to go back and relive the 2003 season (minus the last 11 innings). One thing that caught my eye was one point in middle of the season where it says that, on July 21st, the Cubs beat the Pirates 15-6 at Wrigley field the day after beating the Marlins 16-2 in Miami.

 

I don't remember the exact date, but I DO remember going to a Cubs-Braves game in middle of the summer in Atlanta in which the Cubs won 15-6. I also remember that this was the day after the Cubs played in Florida and beat the Marlins 16-2.

 

Does anyone know where I can find a 2003 schedule of the Cubs so I can verify that I'm not on crack here? Also, if the journal was wrong about both the team and the city in which the game occured, does this logically introduce the possibility that there are other games/stats in the journal that are less credible? (In its summary of the 2000 decade through the end of the '05 season, it describes the acquisition of Alou as the best move the team has made in that span, so that also introduces the possibility of lower credibility.)

 

This is the book entitled "Cubs Journal" by Dan Snyder, btw. Does anyone else have it? What are your thoughts on the book? I've only been reading it for a couple hours so far, so I still haven't gotten through too much of it.

 

Boy, you got a half way decent memory, for a young pup. :wink:

 

Jul. '03 	OPPONENT 	 RESULT 	   REC 	WIN 	           LOSS 	 	             ATT
Fri. 18 	at Florida 	L  6-0  	47-48 	Redman (8-4)   	Clement (7-8)   	  	 26,174
Sat. 19 	at Florida 	W  1-0  	48-48 	Wood (10-6)   	 Penny (8-7)   	  	   30,432
Sun. 20 	at Florida 	W 16-2  	49-48 	Zambrano (7-8) 	Willis (9-2)   	  	  25,574
Mon. 21 	at Atlanta 	W 15-6  	50-48 	Veres (1-1)   	 Reynolds (7-5)   	  	39,950

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/schedule?team=chc&season=2003&seasonType=2&half=2

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Thanks for the input everyone, good to know I don't make these things up ALL the time.

 

So now my question is, how much of the rest of this book should I be taking with a grain of salt when it messes up the team and city for a game as recent as '03?

 

I'm kinda disappointed, personally, and when I go back and read about the teams of the 1890's or early 1900's, it's not like I can rely on my memory to do any fact-checking. (Though I'm sure I can just ask Fred what he remembers about those days :) )

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Thanks for the input everyone, good to know I don't make these things up ALL the time.

 

So now my question is, how much of the rest of this book should I be taking with a grain of salt when it messes up the team and city for a game as recent as '03?

 

I'm kinda disappointed, personally, and when I go back and read about the teams of the 1890's or early 1900's, it's not like I can rely on my memory to do any fact-checking. (Though I'm sure I can just ask Fred what he remembers about those days :) )

You could go to Baseball Reference (the web site I put a link to in my earlier post), click on the Cubs link, then click on each season one by one and compare that season's schedule with the book.

 

Of course, if you have free time to do that one year at a time you really need to get a life. :D

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Thanks for the input everyone, good to know I don't make these things up ALL the time.

 

So now my question is, how much of the rest of this book should I be taking with a grain of salt when it messes up the team and city for a game as recent as '03?

 

I'm kinda disappointed, personally, and when I go back and read about the teams of the 1890's or early 1900's, it's not like I can rely on my memory to do any fact-checking. (Though I'm sure I can just ask Fred what he remembers about those days :) )

 

Good thing your mother loves you, eh?

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Thanks for the input everyone, good to know I don't make these things up ALL the time.

 

So now my question is, how much of the rest of this book should I be taking with a grain of salt when it messes up the team and city for a game as recent as '03?

 

I'm kinda disappointed, personally, and when I go back and read about the teams of the 1890's or early 1900's, it's not like I can rely on my memory to do any fact-checking. (Though I'm sure I can just ask Fred what he remembers about those days :) )

You could go to Baseball Reference (the web site I put a link to in my earlier post), click on the Cubs link, then click on each season one by one and compare that season's schedule with the book.

 

Of course, if you have free time to do that one year at a time you really need to get a life. :D

 

If this season turns out much worse than last, then it just might prove to be the colossal time-killer I would need to replace following the Cubs at only a fraction of the blood pressure increase.

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