Eyre and inherited/bequeathed runners

[Bull]

Baseball prospectus has an interesting report out. It weighs who benefited most from having the runners he left on when he left the game (bequeathed) stranded by the teammate who relieved him. It sort of turns the concept of inherited runners scored backward and shows an adjusted run average.

 

According to prospectus, Eyre had good teammates who helped keep his (bequeathed) runners from scoring, but he was flat out awesome at holding inherited runners. His ERA was 2.77, but should have been 1.01!! Ohman was bad and had help. Weurtz was good to his teammates and his teammates were good to him.

 

Releivers expected runs

[ConstableRabbit]

Thats definately good news

[Marco4]

That looks encouraging indeed.

[Bull]

yeah, and I got to say bequeathed

[jtownie]

I'm losing my mind here...I can't seem to find Howry's numbers.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm losing my mind here...I can't seem to find Howry's numbers.

 

That's because it's only NL numbers and Howry was in Cleveland last year.

[Bull]

I'm losing my mind here...I can't seem to find Howry's numbers.

 

The link is to NL pitchers

 

 

 

here is all:

[jtownie]

Whoops!! I guess I can only blame myself for losing my mind. embarassing.

 

Thanks for the link!!

[Lefty]

Baseball prospectus has an interesting report out. It weighs who benefited most from having the runners he left on when he left the game (bequeathed) stranded by the teammate who relieved him. It sort of turns the concept of inherited runners scored backward and shows an adjusted run average.

 

According to prospectus, Eyre had good teammates who helped keep his (bequeathed) runners from scoring, but he was flat out awesome at holding inherited runners. His ERA was 2.77, but should have been 1.01!! Ohman was bad and had help. Weurtz was good to his teammates and his teammates were good to him.

 

Releivers expected runs

 

Unfortunately that's probably a random stat with no predictive value. Such is the problem of signing middle relievers after their "breakout" season.

[Bull]

Baseball prospectus has an interesting report out. It weighs who benefited most from having the runners he left on when he left the game (bequeathed) stranded by the teammate who relieved him. It sort of turns the concept of inherited runners scored backward and shows an adjusted run average.

 

According to prospectus, Eyre had good teammates who helped keep his (bequeathed) runners from scoring, but he was flat out awesome at holding inherited runners. His ERA was 2.77, but should have been 1.01!! Ohman was bad and had help. Weurtz was good to his teammates and his teammates were good to him.

 

Releivers expected runs

 

 

 

Unfortunately that's probably a random stat with no predictive value. Such is the problem of signing middle relievers after their "breakout" season.

 

I understand that, but the point is that Eyre's ERA was better than it looked last year. He was excellent at holding inherited runners on base, which is what you want relievers to do. Put another way, we need not worry when Dusty puts him in in the middle of an inning. So many discussions here (particularly about Remmy) noted that certain pitchers were only effective if they started an inning. This shows that Eyre is valuable with runners on. That's what you want from a LOOGY.

[WrigleyField 22]

That is encouraging.

 

However, I don't think anone believes Hendry actually looed at such a stat when aquiring Eyre. We lucked into having a guy with promsing stats. It would be much more encouaging if we had reason to believe that this would be a trend to look for.

[Bull]

That is encouraging.

 

However, I don't think anone believes Hendry actually looed at such a stat when aquiring Eyre. We lucked into having a guy with promsing stats. It would be much more encouaging if we had reason to believe that this would be a trend to look for.

 

I take what I can get these days! :D ....... :cry:

[cubweiser03]

Having a BAA of .200 and a whip of 1.08 will do that. BP getting all fancy smancy stating the obvious.

[Lefty]

Baseball prospectus has an interesting report out. It weighs who benefited most from having the runners he left on when he left the game (bequeathed) stranded by the teammate who relieved him. It sort of turns the concept of inherited runners scored backward and shows an adjusted run average.

 

According to prospectus, Eyre had good teammates who helped keep his (bequeathed) runners from scoring, but he was flat out awesome at holding inherited runners. His ERA was 2.77, but should have been 1.01!! Ohman was bad and had help. Weurtz was good to his teammates and his teammates were good to him.

 

Releivers expected runs

 

 

 

Unfortunately that's probably a random stat with no predictive value. Such is the problem of signing middle relievers after their "breakout" season.

 

I understand that, but the point is that Eyre's ERA was better than it looked last year. He was excellent at holding inherited runners on base, which is what you want relievers to do. Put another way, we need not worry when Dusty puts him in in the middle of an inning. So many discussions here (particularly about Remmy) noted that certain pitchers were only effective if they started an inning. This shows that Eyre is valuable with runners on. That's what you want from a LOOGY.

 

But what if he's lousy with inherited runners next year? I don't think these things have any predicitve value. We know what he did last year. That explains his contract. It means nothing now.

[Bull]

Having a BAA of .200 and a whip of 1.08 will do that. BP getting all fancy smancy stating the obvious.

 

I was looking at it the other way. The study shows what a worthless (read: luck related/teammate dependant) stat ERA is.

[Sarcastic]

Having a BAA of .200 and a whip of 1.08 will do that. BP getting all fancy smancy stating the obvious.

 

I was looking at it the other way. The study shows what a worthless (read: luck related/teammate dependant) stat ERA is.

 

For relievers, at least.

[Bull]

Having a BAA of .200 and a whip of 1.08 will do that. BP getting all fancy smancy stating the obvious.

 

I was looking at it the other way. The study shows what a worthless (read: luck related/teammate dependant) stat ERA is.

 

For relievers, at least.

 

True. Much better for starters. They finish 90+% of their innings. And if they ARE pulled in the middle of an inning (especially in th e NL) its their own darn fault, and I hope their runners DO score!

[MPrior]

Having a BAA of .200 and a whip of 1.08 will do that. BP getting all fancy smancy stating the obvious.

 

I was looking at it the other way. The study shows what a worthless (read: luck related/teammate dependant) stat ERA is.

 

For relievers, at least.

 

True. Much better for starters. They finish 90+% of their innings. And if they ARE pulled in the middle of an inning (especially in th e NL) its their own darn fault, and I hope their runners DO score!

 

Well, except in the Cubs' starting rotation, when the only reason they got in trouble in the middle of the inning in the first place is that Dusty should have pulled them out at the end of the last one.