Put corey in RF and call it a day

[AramisRamirez]

we're just not one player away from the world series and with wood/maddux coming off the books soon we need our pitching prospects. so im about ready to pack it in, suffer through another 80-85 win season and reload in 2007.

 

huff, jones, preston wont do anything at all to push usin the 90 win realm. thats really what the goal is --the post-season so we have a WS shot. i just do it happening with either of those 3. so why not do as rogers say and put corey in RF and let him do whatever he wants. just bat him 8th so it doesnt have much affect.

 

the best case scenario is he blossums and his trade value increases. worst case scenario he does has bad as last year and we demote him yet again. vance suggested aiming for 2007 in a different thread and i disagreed. but it makes sense to me because you cant damage the future of the team when the odds of winning it all are unrealistic. if tejada were in the picture, different story. but he's not and its unlikely to think D-Lee will accomplish his 2005 numbers again thie year. so we're just not that good, as much as it hurts to say.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I think it would be inhuman not to trade CPatt your average Cub fan (most people on here aren't) has made him their new whipping boy.

[E.J.]

I think it would be inhuman not to trade CPatt your average Cub fan (most people on here aren't) has made him their new whipping boy.

 

Agreed. If Corey doesn't come out of the gates hot the fans are going to be booing him like crazy. It seems like the booing got to him a bunch and he just got worse and worse as the season went on.

 

If there's ever a guy who needs a "change of scenery" it's Corey.

[Soul]

Yes, I agree. The boos will be louder and earlier than ever.

 

I don't sense Corey has the makeup to handle it either. It's tough. He needs a change, and we desperately need to get some kind of value for him.

[Cubzfan64]

Yes, I agree. The boos will be louder and earlier than ever.

 

I don't sense Corey has the makeup to handle it either. It's tough. He needs a change, and we desperately need to get some kind of value for him.

 

That's where the problem is - he has little to no value due to 2005

[AramisRamirez]

people are quick to say no but not offer alternatives. we have ZERO alternatives. preston? NO. 3-year deal for jones? NO. re-sign burnitz? NO. there are no more options left. we're not getting mench or wilkerson. the only alternatives are wose than corey. if you want to pay jacque jones for 3-years be my guest. give up the pipe dream, we're not getting a really good RF.

[RockTheIvy]

people are quick to say no but not offer alternatives. we have ZERO alternatives. preston? NO. 3-year deal for jones? NO. re-sign burnitz? NO. there are no more options left. we're not getting mench or wilkerson. the only alternatives are wose than corey. if you want to pay jacque jones for 3-years be my guest. give up the pipe dream, we're not getting a really good RF.

 

I still think Wilikerson, Mench, Kearns, Bradley and probably some others are available. A few of those names will probably be on different teams in the coming weeks. I would like to use Corey as the 4th outfielder, and see if he can regain some value.

[YearofDaCubs]

Call it a day? No call it a 2006 season.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

Point taken however I think this is one of those times a GM needs to look at player as a human being and not an asset. CPatt should be traded even if Hendry doesn't feel he's getting maximum value. I know that's easy for me to say as a Cards fan but that's the way I feel.

[Zaphkiel]

I think Corey should be traded because he's just not that good. If the Cubs can get anything at all for him, they should do that before every other team figures out that Corey's probably won't amount to anything more than just another journeyman outfielder.

 

It's over, guys. Corey has had a good half season(2003) and nothing else to speak of since. We've waited 2 years for him to realize the potential that everyone seems to think he has. Many people on this board don't want to trade him now because his value is so low, but has anyone considered that it's looking like this actually is his value?

[Soul]

I think Corey should be traded because he's just not that good. If the Cubs can get anything at all for him, they should do that before every other team figures out that Corey's probably won't amount to anything more than just another journeyman outfielder.

 

It's over, guys. Corey has had a good half season(2003) and nothing else to speak of since. We've waited 2 years for him to realize the potential that everyone seems to think he has. Many people on this board don't want to trade him now because his value is so low, but has anyone considered that it's looking like this actually is his value?

 

Well, he has physical skills and that's why people have trouble letting go. But he doesn't appear to be very coachable.

[Drew Doughty]

Maybe he just doesn't like Dusty.

 

:roll:

[AramisRamirez]

im not saying corey is good or will be. im saying corey sucks. but 1 year of corey doesnt suck as much as 3 years of jacques jones. 1 year of preston wilson will yield the same results as corey -strike out city.

 

the only way a trade happens is if we send 2 good pitching prospects, but im not prepared to do that with wood-maddux impending FA soon. the trade would be worth it if we're going to compete for a WS, but we wont so its not worth it.

[treebird]

im not saying corey is good or will be. im saying corey sucks. but 1 year of corey doesnt suck as much as 3 years of jacques jones. 1 year of preston wilson will yield the same results as corey -strike out city.

 

the only way a trade happens is if we send 2 good pitching prospects, but im not prepared to do that with wood-maddux impending FA soon. the trade would be worth it if we're going to compete for a WS, but we wont so its not worth it.

 

what will you do if the cubs make the wrong decision here? anything exciting?

[J.R.]

so why not do as rogers say and put corey in RF and let him do whatever he wants. just bat him 8th so it doesnt have much affect.

 

I'd sooner inject heroin into my skull with a diamond-tipped needle on Hendry's porch.

[WrigleyField 22]

It would be prety stupid if we decided to look towards 2007 after trading a few good pichers for Pierre. Hendry is stuck now. Even if he wanted to aim for 2007, he can't- he's made the commitment to winning. He just needs to make a move for a good RF. Chances are he'll still have loads of money, so the smart thing would be to make a move for Millwood.

 

Let's just say Wilkerson is available still, and we trade Williams, Novoa, and a lower prospecty

You could still wait around for Tejada for a while before you lose out on Millwood.

I won't even pretend like Walker is back so he gets traded for bench/bullpen.

CF- Pierre

LF- Murton

1B- Lee

3B- Ramirez

RF- Wilkerson

C- Barrett

2B- Perez/Hairston

SS- Cedeno

(Just trying to be realistic with that lineup- smart thing would be to keep Walker and then swap him to the 2 hole w/ Murton 6 or 7)

SP-

Prior

Zambrano

Millwood

Maddux

Wood(Rusch for when he's inured)

 

Not as good as it could have been, but not throwing away the season.

 

RF could be a variety of guys as well (Huff) I just happen to like Wilkerson the most.

 

Even with Millwood's contract you should still have some money patch up the offense and cover raises next offseason. You have Hill and Guzman(or Williams if Guzman/Hill went in a Huff deal) with shots at the rotation, with guys like Mashall with an outside chance.

[anemic offense]

No Millwood please. Though I got nothing to back this up, I think Williams would provide similar performance for significantly less dollars. Especially when you consider Millwood is a Boras client. If the Cubs are DUMB enough to outbid other suitors for his services I'm ready to pack it in. The years and dollars he'll command will be grossly disproportionate to his career performance. Which in and of itself isn't very reassuring.

 

Lineup looks plausible though I sure hope I won't have to see Neifi at second. And if Cedeno bats 8th (which he pry will) I'd go insane. That is if I'm not there already.

[wastra]

If we begin the season with an outfield of Pierre, Patterson, Murton, and Mabry, jim Hendry should not only be fired the very day 3 of those 4 take the field together, he should be tarred and feathered before being shipped in a packing crate and sent to live in exile in New Jersey.

[stitchface]

this thread should be titled put corey in RF and play for 2007

[don_kessinger_was_good]

Patterson sucks.