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wow Ive seen this movie before unreal. The damn pitcher kills us with the bat once again Jesus

hes been drunk

typical. Now its time for Pierre to bite us in the ass

and once again the opposing teams pitcher gets a basehit. lets see if it bites us like it usually does.

back to back k's by Trachsel :shock:

Jeter's WARP numbers have been impressive though, yeah? I remember FJM citing them as 2nd or 3rd best in the AL the year Hafner should have won the MVP But the way he's perceived, he's one of the greatest of all time. The overrated gap between his actual production and hype has to be near the biggest in the last 25 years. Pierre would probably belong, but I'm not sure about Hunter. Soriano perhaps, but there may be more deserving players. Hunters career stats are equal to Jacque Jones. Hunter is going to make a hell of alot more money this off season than Jones ever will, and all because he can climb a wall and make a catch. Overrated indeed.

Oh God Len and Bob are about to make me turn this game on mute. The "intangibles" line is in full effect tonight. Seriously get off Pierre he sucks ass.

eric was late because he was too busy turning down autograph requests outside the stadium. I just figured it was because he didnt want to listen to the coaches so he just stayed away from the ballpark for as long as possible. Totally uncoachable man.....

I wouldn't even feel safe then. Don't worry, Trachsel's on the mound. 8-) I don't get all the Trachsel bashing. I know ERA isn't everything, but you have to be doing something right to have a 4.50'ish ERA in the AL East. That's about where Lilly was last year. That stat Len just gave is the reason why people arent thrilled with this move. He has the worst K/bb ratio in all of baseball. That means there are alot of balls put in play along with those walks, so he tends to look for a lot of luck to help him out. But he has to be doing something right. Or hes been getting by on luck, it happens, but not really something you want to count on when in a pennant race.

Yea and alot of those numbers are against lefties

I wouldn't even feel safe then. Don't worry, Trachsel's on the mound. 8-) I don't get all the Trachsel bashing. I know ERA isn't everything, but you have to be doing something right to have a 4.50'ish ERA in the AL East. That's about where Lilly was last year. That stat Len just gave is the reason why people arent thrilled with this move. He has the worst K/bb ratio in all of baseball. That means there are alot of balls put in play along with those walks, so he tends to look for a lot of luck to help him out.

Wow Thanks LA

Well put

He did have a pitch to hit and hit it very, very hard. Just extremely unlucky. Yea he did, but DeRo has been terrible the 2nd half His OPS is in he 600's for the 2nd half, Id much rather see him take a few pitches just to see if we can scratch something across.

Yea my premium is gone, ugh. Im waiting on Mizzou to get me back up, cause this crap is ridiculous.

So he walks back to back guys and DeRo swings first pitch, Jesus.

:roll:

Kroeger's hurt and out for the year (I'm almost positive). Not sure why they went with Fuld over Craig though - maybe they want another center fielder, which would mean Fuld. Kroeger came back from his injury, and finshed up the season playing for Iowa.

hahahaha maybe a .000000000000001 chance. I doubt Lou is going to give the rook a start since this is Sept. We have to go with veterans who have been there and know how to play baseball in Sept ........ Are you going to update the stats in your sig? Is there really a reason to? He went 1-4 yesterday which would still leave his numbers head an shoulders above Floyds. Sidenot, my premuim is up, have you PM'd Tim?

lol

Ok a very bad year for my standards on Carlos Zambrano.

Its his entire season as a whole, and everything that has encompassed it. He has brought alot of this on himself and you know that. Declaring you are going to win a Cy Young award and then crapping the bed the 1st 2 months of the season. Then getting into a fight with his own teammate. Then using his contract as an excuse as to why hes pitching bad, and then sign the contract and continue to pitch bad. So what, he's not allowed to have a down season. Are you turning into Dan Duquette on us? (I doubt you even get that reference) Pitchers have down years. Pitchers have down months. Zambrano is human. Well most staff aces dont have down years like hes had, after signing a big ass contract. Gah? Most staff aces don't have down years? You sure you don't want to rescind that comment? They might be out there, but staff aces who are entering their prime of their careers Id say it doesnt happen very often. However Im willing to see some example of guys who were entering their prime who suddenly just had a horrible year like Z. I don't need to look too far. Jake Peavy. Ok Peavys 2006 was worse than his previous 2 years by far. And whats odd about that is the only difference in all his stats are hits. He didnt really walk more, but gave up a tad more Hr's. Interesting. Do you have any reasoning behind Peavys year, or just it was a down year? Any other guys you got?

Its his entire season as a whole, and everything that has encompassed it. He has brought alot of this on himself and you know that. Declaring you are going to win a Cy Young award and then crapping the bed the 1st 2 months of the season. Then getting into a fight with his own teammate. Then using his contract as an excuse as to why hes pitching bad, and then sign the contract and continue to pitch bad. So what, he's not allowed to have a down season. Are you turning into Dan Duquette on us? (I doubt you even get that reference) Pitchers have down years. Pitchers have down months. Zambrano is human. Well most staff aces dont have down years like hes had, after signing a big ass contract. Incorrect once again. Zambrano never had a contract until August. His struggles earlier in the season have little to do with the contract. Most staff aces DO have down years like the one he's had. You didn't get the reference. No I didnt get the reference. But Z himself said the contract situation was bothering him so it had some effect, unless that was just one of Z's excuses. I cant think of many aces who in the beginning of the prime of their career have struggled and had the kind of down year like Z, Id say its not common. After Clemens last season with the Sox, the current GM Dan Duquette said that Clemens was in the twilight in his career (or something like that I don't know the exact quote), this after coming off of four consecutive years of winning 11 games or yes (I know the metric is bad but at the time it was probably THE way to grade pitchers so think of it as using ERA to make the connection now). So Duquette traded him. Then. the rest is obviously history. Ok I did have a feeling it was regarding Clemens as I do remember Duquette saying that.

Its his entire season as a whole, and everything that has encompassed it. He has brought alot of this on himself and you know that. Declaring you are going to win a Cy Young award and then crapping the bed the 1st 2 months of the season. Then getting into a fight with his own teammate. Then using his contract as an excuse as to why hes pitching bad, and then sign the contract and continue to pitch bad. So what, he's not allowed to have a down season. Are you turning into Dan Duquette on us? (I doubt you even get that reference) Pitchers have down years. Pitchers have down months. Zambrano is human. Well most staff aces dont have down years like hes had, after signing a big ass contract. Gah? Most staff aces don't have down years? You sure you don't want to rescind that comment? They might be out there, but staff aces who are entering their prime of their careers Id say it doesnt happen very often. However Im willing to see some example of guys who were entering their prime who suddenly just had a horrible year like Z.

So we are villifying him by wanting him to stop sucking and start pitching like the ace he is? Ya sounds like we are real irrational. you've been villifying him from your very first post. And no one said anything about the fact that wanting him to stop sucking is a bad thing. But that yesterday was beyond that. We are going to have to agree to disagree because you arent going to change my mind that there was nothing wrong with what took place yesterday from the fans. I was just about to say the same thing, because I think yesterday was bushleague and classless. So was his performence... hahahahaha. that's a good one. yea z's all out hustle and zeal and passion for which he plays the game is the complete opposite of bushleague and classless. But I know you need to feel justification for the way he was treated by supposed fans yesterday. I don't care about hustle, Zeal, and Passion. I care about results, and the man isn't getting it done when we need him most. It's really that simple. And this simple fact as you put it doesn't mean jack when it comes to whether or not he will produce over the higher leverage month of september Do you put any stock into the fact that his stats over the course of his career in the month of Sept arent very good? Hes had 2 very good Septembers, but only 1 of those were when we were in a pennant race(2004) Other than that his stats in Sept have been really bad. Im asking an honest question here, is that too small a sample, or do you think some stock should be put into it? His career ERA is 3.41. His career ERA in September is 3.48. (Actually I don't think that figure includes his last outing, but still there's no statistically significant difference between his ERA in September and his ERA over the full season). That Sept ERA could be a little skewed though by the fact that hes had 2 years, 2004 and 2002, one a pennant race the other not, where his ERA was way under 2.00 Every other year in his career is over 4.00 So like I said I dont know if its too small a sampling to see a noticable causation, but I think it could be something to keep an eye on. I dont want you to get me wrong, Im not blaming his Sept numbers on his mentality at all, I just really wonder if since he throws sooo many pitches over a course of a season, if by Sept his arm isnt just really worn out.