It's just hate-hate with the Brew cause we're in a race with them now. I don't remember too many people having a deep hatred for the Brew in years past. The Brew fans on her have all been classy. Same obviously is said for the Cards fans through the years. Except K-Town obviously No, I've always hated Milwaukee. They've resented us ever since they joined the NLC pretty much because we turn *their* stadium into Wrigley North. They think we're rich, preppy fans or something when in reality we're probably the most varied fan group by both age and vocation. The Cardinals are just different than Milwaukee. They've been here before, they've fought with us before, and we've developed a grudging respect for each other. Us and Milwaukee? Well, we're just not there yet. Also, Hart and Braun are doing all they can to replace Rolen and Edmonds as most annoying players in the NLC. I hate the cardinals more than I hate the Brewers. and its not even close.