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according to Rasin's stats, the 2 players are pretty similar. Marshall has 1 more pitch then Hill. If a deal comes along that makes the Cubs better and Hill is the pitcher that the other team wants, do it. We have another Rich Hill in Sean Marshall.

I'd rather have Paulino

I'd rather have Rich Hill over Sean Marshall because Hill still has a higher upside and doesn't have Marshall's injury history. While I trust your opinion is accurate it doesn't seem logical here. Hill is older, has less velocity, less control, less # of pitches and can't show any consistency. Marshall has seemingly grown over the offseason and has surpassed Hill. The only negative is his unknown injuries. less consistency? hill is coming down off a stretch of baseball nearly equal to a full season where he was one of the top 5-10 pitchers in all of baseball. has marshall even strung together more than five consecutive good starts in his career? what's the longest run of good health he's ever had? three months? and that's not even considering hill's vastly superior minor league numbers. by the way, every one is crapping themselves over hill's last four starts...his four starts before that... 27 2/3 ip, 18 h, 5 bb, 24 k's, 1.63 era, 0.83 whip i'm concerned about him right now too, but let's have a little perspective. I am NOT crapping myself about Hill's last starts. I am stating my case why I choose Marshall over Hill. When has Marshall been injured? After his first Big league season when he threw more high energy innings then ever before. He started 19 games last season, and started off well. He has come back strong this season and has shown some excellent stuff. How many quality starts does he have? Hill is inconsistent at the level that matters. Minor league numbers are a great indicator of possibility but not performance. Hill has been up and down in MLB, no question about that. Why would this change now? How long do we give him to develop? Marshall vs Hill and they have extremely similar stats. I don't understand the love for Hill and the constant being that he is going to be a top 10 pitcher when Marshall is showing the same skills and attributes, is younger and has other options to throw and yet he is not getting the same kind of attention.

I'd rather have Rich Hill over Sean Marshall because Hill still has a higher upside and doesn't have Marshall's injury history. While I trust your opinion is accurate it doesn't seem logical here. Hill is older, has less velocity, less control, less # of pitches and can't show any consistency. Marshall has seemingly grown over the offseason and has surpassed Hill. The only negative is his unknown injuries.

This is why I was surpised to see the consenus of the board to keep Hill and deal Marshall. Marshall is younger and has the 3rd pitch (and possibly a 4th) already. This year it seems that his curve has gotten above average.

P.S. I would deal Hill for Salty tonight. That is a good deal.

That is a better deal for both teams. Joe Saunders and Eric Aybar might be enough to get that deal Dunn (Ha, Ha) Dunn is the perfect example of how overvalued OBP really is. Don't misunderstand, getting on base is important but it does not trump all other offensive stats. There is a reason that for nearly 100 years the only stats that people would recite about players were BA, HR & RBI. Dunn has some things going for him but not a lot. He can hit the Ball VERY far when he connects but is ultimately the 4th best HR hitter on the Cubs should he be picked up. Does 1 team really need that many HR hitters? 4 Solo HR is the same as 2 2 Run HR. Finding a good balance through the entire order makes better sense. See the Red Sox, Brewers & Angels this season as an example (although there are some holes on each team).

Rick Sutcliffe is a good Call. My vote goes to Eric Karros

Me. Talk about overrated. I would rather keep Murton who would out produce Dunn. HR is an overrated stat. You can score without a HR. You can't score that often when you have a Run Producer setting the all time record for season strikeouts.

Errr... it most cases, 2 minutes doesn't count as pleasure. More like a tease. Then again, you wonder why it lasts only 2 minutes when it is once a month. I think that this is what people should use as the example of a catch-22.

I am in the opposite camp. I think Marshall has a better career in front of him. His Change is more developed and his Curve has gotten nastier this season. If he can keep up his stamina he will be better then Hill. Hill has yet to develop a consistent 3rd pitch to make him completely unhittable. Should Hill be able to develop the 2 seamer then he would be outstanding.

ha, ha. You guys are ruthless

waiting for proof

after just getting home and seeing the news and not interested in reading 45 pages this late at night, I do have a question for those saying that the prospect is horrible. If he is so bad, how did he get drafted so high? Obviously he has talent and a high ceiling, shouldn't we give him some more latitude given his draft status. He seems awfully similar to Pawlek in that respect in that he deserves a little time.

of course you cheer. WHy wouldn't you? Sosa was a GREAT Cub and baseball player. No matter what you THINK happened, just look at facts and only 3 other people have hit 600 HR.

I think I hurt Tim worse this week. 270.43 vs 269.85!

Just a thought but after watching the Padres (and living near SD) I think Jones would be a fit in SD. It is his hometown, the field plays to him in that he can rack up doubles and the Pads need an OF. The money for 08 shouldn't be an issue. Jones makes a pretty manageable salary even for a smaller market, but SD has some money available. I would love to get Tim Stauffer ( pipe dream probably) but this seems like a good fit team wise.

Also, if Ward can 'Hustle" for a double, there is no doubt he will be back Monday

Wow. Professional quality pics. Good job

I have to give props to the 1b ump there. THat is what an Ump is supposed to do when a Manager comes out and argues. He remains calm, doesn't yell back and just shrugs his shoulders. How can the manager keep being upset when the ump isn't giving him a reason to be. Good job. If the ump that Lou got mad at did something like that then Lou would have just gotten kicked out and not suspended. BTW, Julia is STILL hot!

what we really need is a split screen of Lee's angle when he is clearly saying "Did that get away from you" and then see the other angle for Young's response.

All Lee said was "Did that get away from you?" twice. Then threw punches. What did Young say there? I see him pointing but nothing else. Any ideas?

How about Tejada, Marmol & Jones to Anaheim, Cabrera to Cubs and Aybar, Mosely & Murton to Baltimore.

this is why I love baseball. 2 weeks after a fight and Z is berated to now a walk off pinch hit winner...wait for it...

Z's starting tomorrow. Unless he goes tonight