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Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 3-31-26
JunkyardWalrus replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Just went and watched this ab. A couple things. It was an 0-2 pitch and I still hate the ‘Jaguar Paw’ he does as he rounds the bases. I’m all for individualism, but that’s lame. Still my favorite prospect. Like someone else said, be nice for a full, healthy, year of KA, instead of only showing up in the summer. -
Minor League Discussion & Boxes, 3-31-26
JunkyardWalrus replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Man I hope so. -
Clearly.
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Seems the same could be said about this comment?
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It's more ‘the highest paid players in the league are really good hitters.” Alonso makes that 3 war with his bat, but there isn’t a 3 war defender in the league (according to Fangraphs) to contrast. Yes, that makes sense. I guess that’s the my crux: the best defenders aren’t paid like the best offensive players, thusly defense is less valuable than offense, not that defense has no value. Anyway. Thank you for the thoughtful replies. I appreciate it.
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Wouldn't the Swanson situation amongst the 4 SS of his class be an example? He was the best defensively and received the least of the four? Wouldn’t a Pete Alonso, 5/$155 be an example? Never put up a 4 fWAR year, but got more than Nico last off season? The Juan Soto deal? Maybe I’m cherry picking? I can agree I may be antiquated in my view of what a $20m/ should look like. You’re likely right. Doesn’t change he signed for (somewhat to much) less than most here thought, even if it was more than I wanted.
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No? You’re still arguing he should be making more than what the market bore. I don’t believe all WAR is created equally, nor is paid symmetrically in Free Agency. I don’t believe the market treats them equally either. There are countless examples as you’re well aware. I don’t understand why you think defense and offense are equally valued on the open market?
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I was using PCA’s contract, not him, as the example. I didn’t want the Cubs to pay NIco $20m/year. PCA’s contract, not PCA per se, was the example of a contract (6/115, or just under $20m/) I wanted Nico’s extension to stay under.
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Oh, did he get that $150-200 contract? or $10m/WAR (or $40m/ year like the Dodgers new RF?) No? Maybe because the FA market doesn’t treat all WAR equally? Like, offense is worth more on the open market than defense? Maybe? It’s not like the market hasn't shown us this every off-season.
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Love ya'lls narrative is 'second hometown discount' 'must have left money on the table' and not 'nico may not have been worth ($$) what I thought.' You guys love your Hoerner boners. God bless ya. Go Cubs.
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Ha!
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It was in the Tucker vs Nico trade package talk. The argument was Nico was equal to Tucker in prospect package returns.
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All things I agree with, I believe the league pays more for power, much more than for defense. That’s my argument.
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Sure. They went about those numbers in very different ways, as you know, and during very different parts of their career arcs. Seems like comparing Nico’s career year vs Pete’s second year should color the numbers some? Provide some context to view the data? Maybe not? If not, sure, you’re right, if context matters, maybe there’s more to it? I appreciate it’s a counting number and there’s far more to offensive value, but a player with 31 homeruns in a season is difficult for me to call ‘glove first’ just because his glove is amazing. He may be flawed offensively, but I would argue he's a dangerous bat in a lineup, far more than to be relegated as ‘glove first’ player. We’ll see if Nico is valued more like Kyle Tucker or Gimenez soon enough. (Go Cubs!)
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I was looking at PCA's contract more than anything. 6/115. Meaning, if Nico got 6/120+ he’d be making more than $20m/ year. That is where I’m getting hung up. I just don’t see defense demanding this kind of money around the league. (And please explain how PCA is a ‘glove first’ center fielder? I must be missing something.)
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This just seems crazy to me. If Nico freaking Hoerner is the first Cub to break the $200m barrier, I will be gobsmacked.
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I just don’t see a glove first 2b as a $20m a year player. I also don’t think, as many here have argued that Nico is worth the same as Kyle Tucker. I’m in the minority, I’m aware. I'm an old man yelling at clouds drowning in rain. But a glovey second basemen with zero thump doesn’t light my heart afire.
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If his contract is more than PCA, I’m going to be salty.
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Going with one less than Milwaukee. Until Jed proves he can win a division, he still hasn’t in half a decade. He has more extensions than division titles.
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Not complaining, it’s a great gamble on my current favorite player. And yeah, I’m ecstatic when Jed quells my doomboner, not matter how abbreviated, for how he runs the franchise.
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So… it’s 7 years and 116M (If including 2026 as part of the contract)
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Two extensions seems ambitious, but Jed has surprised me all off season.
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Ethan Conrad Out a Month with a Back Injury
JunkyardWalrus replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
Hard to not think of him. Poor bastard. -
Cubs Spring Breakout Game 2026
JunkyardWalrus replied to CaliforniaRaisin's topic in Cubs Minor League Talk
What I thought Killian was supposed to be (and was for like one ST outing a thousand years ago.)
