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if native americans are so bad why do you want to honor them i also don't think you should refer to me as self-hating, i kind of think of that as a personal attack, or at least a personal statement about me which is not true.
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has he even thrown five innings in a start? id say hes going to struggle to get too many 2's if he hasnt.
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yeah, cabrera's been awful, but i can't see the angels just dropping him to sign nomar.
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Letting Wood and Maddux Go..
treebird replied to CubbieRich's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
despite the strong outing today, if somebody claimed maddux, i'd definitely be inclined to let him go. the safety of 200 innings a year is nice, but if it's two hundred innings of 4.80 era, i think we can do better. -
i think some of us already did sounds like plan.... northside baseball, as in northside of Califronia they play in kc at 6 tonight, cupcakes vs lima should be a great game
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So-Called "commissioner" and Jose Canseco ??
treebird replied to ZipDog's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
how can you not believe a word canseco says? he was the first to say that palmeiro juiced, and we've recently found out that he has. ESPECIALLY when you realize that the specific chemical that Jose claimed to have injected into Raffy is the same one that has leaked out as being the one Palmeiro tested positive for. -
i think some of us already did
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Goodness gracious alive! Here we go again. You attack them by saying they weren't named to be tributes then WHY the hell are they named such???? No one has given a good answer. Other than Treebeard's brilliant yet farfetched idea about a "trophy prize" i've heard zero. i posted this earlier. it seems pretty simple and logical.
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Hendry gives Dusty a vote of confidence.....
treebird replied to OldHappyCubFan's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
i wish it weren't, but i definitely think it is. Hendry has his faults, but when I think about the thought of him getting fired, I think about Hughes replacing him. That frightens me beyond all comprehension. i know, i know. i think the cubs upper management situation is destined to get worse before it gets better. -
I thought you were doing a pretty good job of making your point and defending your stance until this post above. People are always going to be offended by something. You have to judge it based on how many people are offended, why they're offended and how it is offending them. You can't just change rulings/laws/traditions/names because someone is offended or there will never be any rulings/laws/traditions/names etc. If there is a legitimate reason for a group of people to be offended, that's one thing. But if some white guy in California is offended by the nickname "Seminoles" at Florida State, but the tribe itself and the locals of that region aren't offended, you don't change it. so if i tell a racist joke that maligns black people to a bunch of my white friends, it's cool? only people of the given race are allowed to be offended by racism?
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Hendry gives Dusty a vote of confidence.....
treebird replied to OldHappyCubFan's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
i wish it weren't, but i definitely think it is. -
do you really think there are native americans who wake up and think "it's a good day to be alive, i'm being tributed by that guy at the football game."? People say they are offended. We should cut the mascots. That's it as far as I'm concerned. Another interesting argument is that the schools would MAKE money by changing. Everybody would go crazy buying up the old mascot stuff before it was discontued, and then everyone would have to buy new stuff when it came out. I don't think the schools lose at all.
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Is Hill one of those that the Cubs saw as too good?
treebird replied to LuvChicagoSports's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
You can complain about it only in that is was dumb to be trading actual decent young pitchers for Matt Karchner. The fact that Garland happened to turn out to be good is irrellevant. -
is your tasty beverage acid? (again)
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people are legitimately offended my the native american thing. if people make up phony offenses (nice english johnny), we'll have to handle that then. i'm pretty sure this isn't that though.
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it's because they are mascots at colleges maybe it's because those in power keep throwing their weight around. "hey can we maybe have reservations that aren't out in the middle of the desert? it's not very fun there." "well, we would but instead we decided to make a tribute to you with mascots. look, theres a guy who looks just like at a football game! isn't this better?" "um." You do know they can leave the reservation? It isn't a prison. They aren't forced to live in squalor. "hey you know how we killed all your ancestors and made them leave and they said hey you can have a little bit of land?" "yeah" "well its pretty crappy" "yes i agree" "so dont live there! leave the only thing physical thing you still have that has any connections to your past! ps- here's two tickets to an fsu game that will surely make you happy dont forget about the tribute!" "um."
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it's because they are mascots at colleges maybe it's because those in power keep throwing their weight around. "hey can we maybe have reservations that aren't out in the middle of the desert? it's not very fun there." "well, we would but instead we decided to make a tribute to you with mascots. look, theres a guy who looks just like at a football game! isn't this better?" "um."
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That was my point initially, hence the title of the thread. The schools that make up the NCAA with these nicknames see nothing wrong with it, and the NCAA lets these schools continue to be a part of the association. However, when a tournament comes along the proverbial crap hits the fan. i completely agree with this! it doesnt make any sense to be cool with it all year, but not in the most important games.
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there are lots of potential reasons. one of the more interesting: say you know a big game hunter. he goes to africa and kills a lion. he comes back and wants to get the head of the lion mounted. he gets it in a scary pose, and hangs it in his den. why? to show people how intimidating and powerful that creature that HE defeated was. it's a tribute to the lion, but it's also a tribute to the hunter who killed it, for he must be very strong indeed if he defeated it. now if that isn't an awesome allegory, i dont know what is. Treebeard... honestly...i'm very impressed. You should come to Law School with me. That is a MASSIVE stretch, but a very good one. it probably is a stretch, but then it's not like anyone is saying that they did this consciously, so who knows. another likely reason for their establishment is the fact that due to the stereotypical dance and dress they are given, it'd be easy to pick them out and recognize them from a distance.
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IF THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE OFFENDED THAT'S ALL THAT SHOULD MATTER not how many people not whether they themselves are native american not whether the people who established the mascot intended it as a tribute. there are people who are offended. that should be the end.
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there are lots of potential reasons. one of the more interesting: say you know a big game hunter. he goes to africa and kills a lion. he comes back and wants to get the head of the lion mounted. he gets it in a scary pose, and hangs it in his den. why? to show people how intimidating and powerful that creature that HE defeated was. it's a tribute to the lion, but it's also a tribute to the hunter who killed it, for he must be very strong indeed if he defeated it. now if that isn't an awesome allegory, i dont know what is.
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Archie Bunker was an insensitive, bigitous, racist jerk. As clearly you think I must be. ok. i just didnt follow why you went straight for him, i thought maybe it was a joke i didn't get, as my knowledge of all in the family is not particularly great.
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im pretty sure that the guy who callously refers to things as [expletive] whenever he doesnt like him should not be the voice of reason when it comes to what is or is not offensive. i dont follow the archie bunker statement, and yes i do know who archie bunker is.
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describing things as [expletive] certainly isn't politically correct on any level. i wish you wouldn't do that. Why are you always so high and mighty? Unbelievable. Retarted according to websters can also mean "To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede." I'll use whatever words I please, I don't need you or any other PC police on my case. If people are allowed to preach hatred in this country and incite violence according to the first amendment then I damn well can use the word "retarted" quit nitpicking. jesus. This is absoultely delaying? Is that what you meant? yep if you dont want to answer that's fine, but i dont see what you definition had to do with your usage. context clues lead one to believe that you were not referring to the speed at which things were occurring.
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describing things as [expletive] certainly isn't politically correct on any level. i wish you wouldn't do that. Why are you always so high and mighty? Unbelievable. Retarted according to websters can also mean "To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede." I'll use whatever words I please, I don't need you or any other PC police on my case. If people are allowed to preach hatred in this country and incite violence according to the first amendment then I damn well can use the word "retarted" quit nitpicking. jesus. This is absoultely delaying? Is that what you meant?
