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Actually he appeared for 1/3 of an inning a week ago in St. Louis. Not that this does anything to modify the fact that he sucks.

Yeah, I brought it back. And deservedly so. Just go look at the lineup for tonight's game. Or the substitutions that were made. now try not to throw up.

Good disgusting stat from Len: "The Cincinnati Reds have bested the Cubs six consecutive times."

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee

nah. you know when would be though? After Macias retires. Until then, Jose's hitting.

Well I think we know who's starting in right field for the next week.

Can someone compile how many homers Cubs pitchers have given up on 0-2 counts this year as compared to other teams' pitchers? I bet we're leading that category.

I'm in total agreement with this. I wouldn't have a problem with Neifi one bit if he hit .280 in the 7th or 8th spot all year. That's where you hide guys who have bad OBP's. In reality, a guy with a decent AVG, but horrible OBP is better suited hitting behind the production guys, because he can turn those hits into RBI's. Unfortunately, it's Dusty Baker who put Neifi at the top of the line up, and it's decisions like that that will force Cub fans to watch other teams play in October. Neifi is a quality back up. He's done an alright job filling in for injured players. But, at no time should he have ever been considered for top of the order duties. That falls on the manager. I think a lot of the hatred for Neifi has a whole lot more to do with how Baker used Neifi than what Neifi has done with a bat. Neifi is what Neifi is. To the person who suggests that Neifi should have made some sort of adjustment when put in a top of the order spot, it's not that simple. He's never been a guy who had plate patience or good pitch selection. You can't change that. This team just doesn't grasp the concept of the importance of OBP at the top of the order. And they are sitting at home in October partially because of just that. Derrek Lee is having an incredible offensive year, yet he still has not surpassed the 100 RBI plateau. To give you an idea what Lee might have done with a couple of decent OBP guys at the top of the order, look at what Manny Ramirez has done this year: .280 AVG compared to Lee's .341. That's a 61 point swing in AVG. 64 XBH's to Lee's 88 XBH's. That's 24 more XBH's. Manny has 135 hits in 132 games compared to Lee's 180 hits in 139 games. Manny has 120 RBI's and Lee still hasn't broken 100. Now, how can this be? The Cubs OBP from the lead off spot this year is .300. That's not the AVG, that's the OBP. The OBP for the #2 hitter this year is .321. The Red Sox lead off hitters are getting on base at a .360 clip. The #2 hitters are at a .359 OBP. That's why Manny Ramirez has 21 more RBI's than Derrek Lee. Even though Manny is hitting .280, has less at bats and less XBH's. Between the #1 and #2 hitters, the Red Sox have scored 219 times (lead off 113 times and #2 hitter 106 times). The Cubs lead off hitter has crossed the plate 77 times. The Cubs #2 hitter has crossed the plate 79 times. That, my friends, is PATHETIC!! OBP is not the be all-end all stat. But, at the top of the order it sure is. If Derrek Lee had good OBP guys in front of him all year like Manny has, he would be approaching the RBI record. And that boost in RBI's from the #3 hitter alone would have meant a lot more Cub wins. Give the #4 hitter more RBI opportunities and that also would have provided even more wins. This horrible season is all on Dusty. You are a golden god.

If we could just have an entire team of Neifis, we'd be playoff bound by now.

wait. They pitched around Barrett because they knew they'd strike out Macias and patterson? How did they know that?

At least one of them was.

nah, he's been saying crap like that all year.

Also if a rookie goes 4-5 he's headed back to the bench Jul. 18 @CIN W 9-4 5 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .450 .471 .921 .412 Jul. 19 @CIN W 7-3 Did not play Jul. 20 @CIN L 9-3 Did not play

I agree with the recent sentiment. A bag of warm urine in exchange for holly is still a great deal. Actual players are even more of a bonus.

I will be in the bleachers for this game. Also i will probably be drunk.

Poor Ron. Someone should sedate him for the rest of the year.

While that is an amusing story, I would like to remind everyone that if an usher can make the determination that you are throwing back a ball that was not the home run ball, they will throw you out of Wrigley. Happened to a friend of mine earlier this year.

Selective numbers? Nothing selective about the numbers. His VORP (which is the equiv. of 1 win over a AAAA/25th man) is only at 11 at this stage and he has been amazing defensively. His .300 OBP has been a problem for this team, especially hitting 2nd for a bulk of the time in front of Lee. If the Cubs had the starting pitching and bullpen of the Sox as well as playing in a less top heavy division as the NL central, they'd be able to perform well w/Neifi. But, since they don't have the pitching of the Sox, they have to score more runs. Having Neifi in the lineup hurts the Cubs chances of scoring runs. Sorry, but I never heard of VORP and that is selectively picking a number. Neifi is still having a better year than Walker. His defense in an important defensive position has been outstanding. Maybe take a look at the pitching for the real trouble with this team, not Neifi and Macias, who both seem to be the favorite whipping boys of this site. Don't back your comments up with statistics, or I'll be forced to say that they don't count. That's fine with me. I really don't care. I'll take .275 and 47 RBI with a low K rate with very good D from my sub infielder any day. that's fine with me. I really don't care. I'll reject a bottom 3 in MLB SS with overrated defensive skills based on his abilites when he was younger, coupled with some meaningless RBI numbers, a low K rate only because he swings at everything thrown, and a batting average that people can throw out to shield their arguments from the fact that he can't get on base.

Selective numbers? Nothing selective about the numbers. His VORP (which is the equiv. of 1 win over a AAAA/25th man) is only at 11 at this stage and he has been amazing defensively. His .300 OBP has been a problem for this team, especially hitting 2nd for a bulk of the time in front of Lee. If the Cubs had the starting pitching and bullpen of the Sox as well as playing in a less top heavy division as the NL central, they'd be able to perform well w/Neifi. But, since they don't have the pitching of the Sox, they have to score more runs. Having Neifi in the lineup hurts the Cubs chances of scoring runs. Sorry, but I never heard of VORP and that is selectively picking a number. Neifi is still having a better year than Walker. His defense in an important defensive position has been outstanding. Maybe take a look at the pitching for the real trouble with this team, not Neifi and Macias, who both seem to be the favorite whipping boys of this site. Don't back your comments up with statistics, or I'll be forced to say that they don't count.

there we go

got lucky there. He stayed on

its not repeatable on here, thats for sure. Thanks. Why were doing that? Ah, crowds chanting swear words. Is there anything classier (especially with kids in attendance?) i don't see any kids there. Right, well I'm sure it's 18 and over night at Wrigley :roll: You're right. I'm probably just drunk again.

its not repeatable on here, thats for sure. Thanks. Why were doing that? Ah, crowds chanting swear words. Is there anything classier (especially with kids in attendance?) i don't see any kids there.

Someone's got a blackout!