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Keller 2 years with the Phillies
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So far the Cubs main additions to the roster has been Hoby Milner, Maton and Theilbar, all bullpen guys.
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I agree, I mean if the offer to Bregman was 4/120 with 2 opt outs last year, I just dont see them making any kind of better offer this year for him, I wouldn't put it pass them if their offer if made was 3/90..lol This was part of why I never believed that there was ever a big interest in him, that zoom meeting probably lasted 5 minutes and was probably basically just the Cubs asking if he'd accept that 4/120 now and he said nope...
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I would of accepted that but when you called me champ(I took it as funny), I had to reply back with champ too...lol
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It no big deal now, but this is what I saw Cuzi responding to and why I thought he was talking about now... No where does it say anything about getting Bregman LAST YEAR... But he said he was referring to last year then ok, we move on
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Theyre nice additions, I just find it amusing how Hoyer likes his old bullpen guys and for that matter he seems to always add an older bench bat too.
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Your response was to Bertz about Bregman this offseason, and saying he's trying to save his job. My response to you was just that he doesn't need to try and save his job because he just signed an extension and is safe
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Same point Champ....lol
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Save his job ???? He just signed an extension for 5 more years. Jed will be the Cubs POBO until like Theo hes ready to step down and that wont be until at least 2030.
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Thielbar had a nice year for them but let not ignore hes going to be 39, so a drop-off in what he did last season wouldn't be surprising... Hoyer loves his older bullpen guys, probably because he can get them on 1-2 yr deals. So far his pen additions are Theilbar (39) Milner (35) and Maton (33)
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Part of me think he inked Dansby to the 7 yrs was because he was set on bringing in one of the 4 SS that offseason and waited it out to where Swanson was his last option and he had to go 7 yrs to get him
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I didn't care about the money part of things back then, I was just happy to see them add another big bat to go with Lee and Ramirez, brought in Pinella and actually try and win games again.
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Soriano was 31 when he got an 8 yr contract.. I personally have no gripe about it. My bringing up Soriano is mainly in my thinking of why Hoyer might be hesitant in giving out those type of contracts (8+yrs)length wise and giving them out to guys that 30+. He was the GM when he and Theo were trying to trade Soriano towards the end of that contract but couldn't get any takers because of Soriano age and money owed, they finally got the Yankees to bite but had to pay part of the contract just to get back a low level pitcher in return. Heyward was Theo guy. Swanson the only guy he has signed so far for 7 yrs. Yes majority of FA now are 30 or close to it and so far in Hoyers 6th offseason as POBO, outside of Swanson(28), he hasn't inked anyone for more than 5 years, they've been 3-5 at most. I just personally feel that Hoyer is just gunshy now and don't want to be in position to be stuck with a long term deal with a guy after age 35. I could be wrong as to why but until he actually signs players to a long term deal past age 35, theres a reason why he doesn't and that just my thoughts on why.
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Never said his contract wasn't fine, or he wasn't playing good, was just going down memory lane in response to the poster about when the Tribune sold the Cubs. In my response to Rob, I answered your previous question
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I was beyond ecstatic when they signed Soriano... maybe im wrong but weren't they(Theo/Jed) trying to move him but having a hard time because of his age/money/years left on his deal ? Then they were able to trade him back to the Yankees but had to eat money to just recieve some low level pitcher in return. To answer RCAL question through your post, I just think having to go through that process with Soriano and Heyward deal, might have some to do with Hoyer hesitation to offer up the long term (7+ yrs) deals to guys around 30.
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That i remember, they had a 66 win team with Dusty in 2006, went out and hired Pinella and brought in Soriano and other FA to spice up the team and won the division with 85 wins and then sold them to the Ricketts. Lol
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Nico will actually be 30 in 2027, I think if Jed does offer an extension though, my guess would be something like 4/80. I think Hoyer will offer low especially if Rojas and or Hernandez has a good season in 2026.
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Darvish was Theo guy when he signed for 2018, and Hoyer traded away a month after taking over as POBO in 2020
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I posted the other day that I think Jed seeing the affect of how both Heyward and Soriano contract had on cubs, has probably made him hesitant on signing guys close to 30 or older to any contract length over 7 years, especially if they're 30+ of age. I doubt he'll even consider going more than 5 for a pitcher.
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Probably wont see the Cubs make any significant additions until after the holidays
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Yea, I mean why look desperate and spend a little extra on the really good FA, when you can wait and grab the lesser talented ones thatll take way less money and years 🙄😏
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Hoyer not looking to add anyone of significant to the pen or rotation, I said before when Imanaga returned, they have their rotation set and more with Steele returning in May/June and some depth with Rea, Assad, Wicks, and possibly Wiggins later in year. I still feel at best Hoyer will add a couple depth type starters. I want to be wrong cause they need another TOR type starter, I just dont see them doing it this offseason. Same with bullpen, they have a bunch of in house guys already and I doubt Hoyer going to spend more than 5 mil on a reliever, so at best he'll likely add a couple depth type arms here too, nothing exciting. But Hey, all is ok, they promoted Zombo to VP of pitching after 1 year so the Nationals wouldn't hire him 🙄 😉
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I hope not, but i can see them sticking with their position players to get through the first offseason of the new CBA and possibly a delay in starting the season if they hold out.
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Dodgers since as long as i can remember, has always made up their rosters with mostly home grown talent and then added top notch veteran players where needed via trade and FA to surround them with. It's like a revolving door of talent for them in their system and why they have always been an above 500 team just about every season
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That why their payroll is up there in top 5 to 10 every year is because of the multiple 15-25 per guys that they sign to 2 to 5 year deals, while avoiding the big signings for one or two stars.
