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I'm breaking this to a new thread.
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Unless he goes to St. Louis like I thought he would, anything Dotel does is irrelevant to the Cubs. They're desperate down there in Texas. Remember when Hoops brought up trading Garland? They'd get a kings ransom from Texas right now.
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:lol:
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It's lucky for Jacque Jones that he has all that bat speed, because without it he'd be discovering hitting lows we didn't even know existed in about five years time. See, this is the same thing people do when talking about slap hitters and how they turn outs into base hits, so they're somehow more valuable. in either case, unless the skill is something they found last week, then i doesn't warrant additional consideration, as it's already in the productivity package. Just as a slap hitter's infield hits don't count twice in his batting average, Jones's quick bat doesn't suddenly make his below-average production more acceptable. And Wilkerson isn't injury-prone, so you can't turn it around and say that and be telling the truth. The fact that he was able to keep playing and be productive (moreso than Jones, certainly) while suffering fairly severe injuries is a testament to how effective he's capable of being when completely healthy. No, I could pretty easily question his ability to stay 100% healthy next year. You're crazy if you don't think agents don't bring things like that up in discussions.
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Something relative to the title - Vance, do you think we could trade Patterson for Wilkerson as part of a package deal?
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No way. Joey Gathright couldn't have avoided that shot to the arm.
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Ha, are you ending the conversation by yourself? Batting eye won't help you if you can't hit the ball for power, and I don't really see Wilkerson or Jones as having high range power. Jones does have, by far, the faster bat. Plus more speed, which again, will die out long past Wilkersons. I also severely question Wilkerson's ability to play for a team like the Cubs being coached in such a horrible system, Jones comes from a team with a quality farm system and a quality head coach. I'd trust him to be more consistant and able to handle the different surroundings that Wrigley presents.
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I agree with you about Walker. His attitude gets under my skin, but oh well. Why is doing anything half-injured a positive, I could easily flip that around to being injury-prone. If we have one of these players playing CF, Walker still at 2B, where is Hendry going to get speed from? Seems RF is the only open position then, and I don't know anyone with wheels to play there except Abreu. I agreed 3/20 is too much for Jones. I'd look at Jermaine Dye's deal last year and go from there.
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Kind of looks like your avatar, heh. Why don't they just keep Sanders and sign Giles for 3-4 more?
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No, they're shipping him out in spite of it. :?
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I said in the other thread that Jones has one of the quickest bats in the AL, and he does. While that hasn't led him to have amazing BA's or anything, when he's older thats what keeps players productive. I'd also prefer his speed and defense over Wilkerson.
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.351? Big Deal. Walker clipped .355 and we're ready to ship him out of town. Jones has some intangibles that Wilkerson is lacking IMO, but thats besides the point - if either one ends up a Cub I'll be dissapointed. Neither one are qualified to play RF, so they're going to play CF, meaning we need a guy with speed to play RF? Not happening. Edit: Good points, plus the added realization I just had of adapting to the NL. Something also can be said for having to trade for Wilkerson and Jones being available though.
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Maybe that he's hit 25 homers once ever, hasn't hit even .255 in 3 years, is a poor base stealer, has below average power (okay home run power, but far foo few doubles and triples for a guy with his speed), and has never even come close to his career year numbers, showing a very steady and fast regression? You're severely underestimating the power of St. Louis' system as a whole.
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Why not sign Rondell White for $2M instead? :lol: Honestly, I've always thought Rondell White was a good player, he's just not dependable.
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Why do you guys like Wilkerson but are slamming Jacque Jones in the other thread? (Honest question)
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Nowhere did I say he's a tier A player, I said he's a good player and I honestly believe he is. He plays above average defense, and is consistant at the plate with upper mid-range power, with upper mid-range speed. What's so crazy about a 270/25/80 line from Jacque in STL playing some quality OF defense? I'd pay 2/10 or 2/11 for that, not 3/20.
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Come on you guys, Jones is a good player. It's the 7M a year thats bad, not Jones. Believe it or not Jacque has one of the quickest bats in the AL.
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Pal, I have 400 posts on a message board, that's what you know of me. Leave it alone. Exactly the reason I'd guess he asked more information about you. Whatever. If I was a janitor my opinion on the Cubs is less insightful than yours?
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Pal, I have 400 posts on a message board, that's what you know of me as a person. Leave it alone.
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They are "Sunday alternates" only. Really? Depressing.
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1996, compare that to our potential 2006 staff. It's a lot harder for me to complain having lived through nightmares like Foster, Young, and Morgan.
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So you're inferring spending money doesn't directly relate to winning? :shock: edit: I'm not being sarcastic!
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I agree with Diff too, it's what I was trying to say less eloquently than he did. :lol:
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We're the Cubs not the Royals. A budget is a budget. What do you have a degree in? (if you don't mind my asking) Knock that off. Who cares what his degree is in. Thanks - sometimes I think the goal here is to discredit other posters to move up some invisible food chain instead of talking Cubs baseball.
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Dude you're like a freakin' vulture over my posts. I couldn't even correct my typo in time before you dropped from the skies to discredit me.