pecota is big on framing right? i bet if we swapped out contreras for grandal we'd just to first If framing really is this valuable we probably should go to the automated zone sooner than later if HP umps can essentially be tricked in to calling or not calling strikes and that outcome affects win totals this much. I don't think framing really affects win totals that much and that people overstate how good/bad any catcher is at this "skill". Now, are HP umps tricked into calling balls as strikes? Do they mess up on pitches low and/or beneath the strike zone? Do they let the count affect whether to call the next pitch a ball/strike? Obviously, the answer is yes and everyone horsefeathering knows this. I'm really pissed that of all the changes they're thinking of making (universal DH, lowering/pushing back the mound, expanded rosters, etc.) no one wants to even bring up an exploratory study on implementing an automated strike zone. horsefeathers you Rob Manfred and not wanting to get rid of the "human element". Don't give me that BS about the technology not being good enough.