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oh man, i want to think you are joking Exactly what part do you think I would be joking about? i still think you're joking. you have to be.

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control. It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future. He may have traded him while his value was highest, but he didn't get true value for him. He basically gave him away for a mediocre reliever who will make millions next year. It doesn't matter if he doesn't fit into the Cubs plans, he still has value that can be used. I can't stand when people use that argument. True value is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously, Hendry values Ceda a lot less than we do. Until Ceda comes to the major leagues and puts up numbers better than Gregg, I will give Hendry the benefit of the doubt. Plus, the Cubs got Ceda for basically nothing. One of the reasons I like this move is that Hendry is being proactive early in the off season. With Gregg the Cubs have at least one solid bullpen arm guaranteed. If Gregg were in the Cubs pen last year he would have had the third best WHIP behind Wood and Marmol. If he has a similar season in 2009, he is an upgrade over every other pitcher in the pen. Hendry still has time to go out and get some other arms, but he is not held hostage in free agency. So because he got Ceda for nothing it's okay to give him away? I really don't think you should be giving Hendry the benefit of the doubt, especially when trading young pitchers to the Marlins. I also think you think Gregg is better than he really is. He's an average pitcher with an above average salary. Plus saying that he had a better WHIP than anybody on our team last year not named Wood or Marmol isn't really saying much. And you think Gregg is worse than he really is. A 1.27 WHIP is not average. Ceda had around a 1.30 in A+ ball. That is against low level major league hitters. Why is it that you apply a double standard when you evaluate talent. By your logic if a 1.27 WHIP pitcher in the majors is an average reliever than....a 1.30 A+ ball pitcher is WAY below average, because he is facing much worse talent. People are getting carried away with Ceda's ability to throw a 95 mph fastball. I don't think anyone is getting carried away with Ceda. Nobody here is in love with him We know what he is. I wanted him to be traded while he had value this offseason, just not for Gregg. For other organizations with decent farm systems this trade might be okay. Ceda is one of the few players we have in the minors that actually has trade value. We can't be wasting those guys. BA ranked him our 4th best prospect in 2008 so he's not trash. Also, I'm not sure why you're using his WHIP at age 21 in AA to determine how good he is anyways. I'd say the fact that he is missing a ton of bats at that level at a young age is a lot more relevant.

I thought someone on this board said that.

By the way, it would be fun to see him get win #300 as a Cub. He only needs 5 more.

I'm down, but only if it's as a bonus starter.

The picture of young Kerry Wood next to current Kerry Wood on the cubs.com homepage makes me sad

Don't believe everything you hear. All we can do is make judgements based on the info we have

If we sign Jonhson it better not be the only starter we sign.

From what I've gathered, Hendry doesn't want him to sign for cheap. He feels bad about it. That's the reason Wood is leaving. Hendry wants him to get paid.

I just find it ridiculous that they're trading BA's 4th ranked Cubs prospect of 2008 for kevin Gregg and they're dumping Michael Wuertz. Somebody please explain that to me.

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control. It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future. He may have traded him while his value was highest, but he didn't get true value for him. He basically gave him away for a mediocre reliever who will make millions next year. It doesn't matter if he doesn't fit into the Cubs plans, he still has value that can be used. I can't stand when people use that argument. I dunno if Ceda value was much higher then a guy like Kevin Gregg, and the only reason the Marlins only got one prospect for a Gregg, Is because Gregg got hurt and struggled in mid to late August. On August 14th, Gregg was 26 of 32 in saves with a 2.29 era, and had a mid 2 era most of the season. The fact that he got bombed from August 15 through 29 and then went on the DL, made him have less value this offseason. I'm not saying that makes it ok for Hendry to trade a prospect like Ceda for Gregg. But a guy like Gregg who doesn't make alot, who can close and has a mid 3's era, has good value around the league. I'm sure alot of people around baseball don't see Gregg as a mediocre reliever, including obviously Jim Hendry. That's irrelevant, because the stats show that he is

Neither are mediocre relievers who can't throw strikes and have bloated salaries

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control. It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future. He may have traded him while his value was highest, but he didn't get true value for him. He basically gave him away for a mediocre reliever who will make millions next year. It doesn't matter if he doesn't fit into the Cubs plans, he still has value that can be used. I can't stand when people use that argument. True value is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously, Hendry values Ceda a lot less than we do. Until Ceda comes to the major leagues and puts up numbers better than Gregg, I will give Hendry the benefit of the doubt. Plus, the Cubs got Ceda for basically nothing. One of the reasons I like this move is that Hendry is being proactive early in the off season. With Gregg the Cubs have at least one solid bullpen arm guaranteed. If Gregg were in the Cubs pen last year he would have had the third best WHIP behind Wood and Marmol. If he has a similar season in 2009, he is an upgrade over every other pitcher in the pen. Hendry still has time to go out and get some other arms, but he is not held hostage in free agency. So because he got Ceda for nothing it's okay to give him away? I really don't think you should be giving Hendry the benefit of the doubt, especially when trading young pitchers to the Marlins. I also think you think Gregg is better than he really is. He's an average pitcher with an above average salary. Plus saying that he had a better WHIP than anybody on our team last year not named Wood or Marmol isn't really saying much.

What a soft goal. You're in position with no screen and you let him go 5 hole on you to win it? C'mon

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control. It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future. He may have traded him while his value was highest, but he didn't get true value for him. He basically gave him away for a mediocre reliever who will make millions next year. It doesn't matter if he doesn't fit into the Cubs plans, he still has value that can be used. I can't stand when people use that argument.

I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them

Hopefully the Angels sign Teixeira

Hopefully the Angels don't get involved because it sounds like he'd be Jake's first choice after the Dodgers

lolol everyone was joking about Peavy being his source and he actually was

Braves pretty much backed out of negotions. DonnieD has a source who supposedly said Peavy to the Braves wasn't happening even when reports said he was going to be traded there. Also supposedly something is supposed to happen today and if not, DonnieD will shed more light on his source. I'm pretty sure DonnieD never said anything about something happening tonight.

Don't get your hopes up too much. There was information he shared with mods that gave me the impression he may want to hold off on sharing that info beyond Friday. But, that's just my take. He may spill the beans tonight. So do you believe what he says? I believe what he says, but I wouldn't get too excited about the info. Why? Because the person isn't reputable, or because things change? Not that the person isn't reputable but it depends on Donnie's read/judgement of the situation. And yes, things can easily change. So if you guys had to guess right now would you Peavy is trading to the Cubs or not? haha Given the information I have, I'm not sure. It really comes down to Donnie's judgement of his source. Judgement of his source? Confusing

Don't get your hopes up too much. There was information he shared with mods that gave me the impression he may want to hold off on sharing that info beyond Friday. But, that's just my take. He may spill the beans tonight. So do you believe what he says? I believe what he says, but I wouldn't get too excited about the info. Why? Because the person isn't reputable, or because things change? Not that the person isn't reputable but it depends on Donnie's read/judgement of the situation. And yes, things can easily change. So if you guys had to guess right now would you Peavy is trading to the Cubs or not? haha

Don't get your hopes up too much. There was information he shared with mods that gave me the impression he may want to hold off on sharing that info beyond Friday. But, that's just my take. He may spill the beans tonight. So do you believe what he says? I believe what he says, but I wouldn't get too excited about the info. Why? Because the person isn't reputable, or because things change?

Don't get your hopes up too much. There was information he shared with mods that gave me the impression he may want to hold off on sharing that info beyond Friday. But, that's just my take. He may spill the beans tonight. So do you believe what he says?

From all the rumors I remember, MacPhail and Hendry had a trade worked out, but Angelos wouldn't sign off on it. I don't see why you're making a big deal of this. I doubt Hendry will spend much time working with MacPhail this offseason. As far as the Peavy talks are concerned, why should Hendry walk away from a potential deal for Peavy. He's lucky enough to be one of 2 GM's who are seriously being considered to land Peavy. Meanwhile, Hendry is not sitting on his hands waiting for Towers to make a decision. The Cubs have already made a couple of trades this offseason, which is more action than many other teams have had so far. I'm not making a big deal out of it. I made a passing comment on it and like 3 people bashed me for it so I defend myself, that's all. And for like the 4th time, nothing I have said has anything to do with Hendry and the Peavy talks. I don't have any problem with the Peavy stuff.