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  1. you wish bad things upon your favorite team because your feelings are hurt? what kind of backwards logic is that? Did you not see the part where I said "part of me"? Obviously I don't actually want that to happen. Anyways, it has nothing to do with my feelings being hurt and the fact that it's Kerry Wood. I was in favor of letting Wood leave.... before I found out he'd take a one year deal. Not giving him a one year deal is stupid and it hurts the team next year, especially now that they're probably going to move Marmol to closer.
  2. That doesn't mean they're out. It's all posturing.
  3. It's funny that hendry announced Wood won't be coming back right after the gregg trade, as though he thought Kevin Gregg would soften the blow and make it easier for the fans to take. Moron.
  4. Now Marmol is going to close? This is shaping up to be the most disastrous offseason ever. Hendry is trying desperately to cancel out everything good he's done over the past 2 years. It's like once he got his extension he realized he's awful again.
  5. Because our window of winning a championship is right now. Every year that goes by our offesne gets older and their salaries grow.
  6. Now part of me hopes that our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year.
  7. Wow, now I take back everything I said to defend hendry in this decision. Jim Hendry is a piece of trash. I can't even imagine how pissed I'm going to be when they give Dempster like 60 million. Part of me almost hopes our bullpen (Gregg especially) is a disaster next year just so hendry can eat isht.
  8. No chance in hell Cleveland trades Choo for Gregg.
  9. If we got fuentes then why would we need Gregg...you talkin loco. Why do we need to replace Howry? He was no good last year and we were fine. So because we made the playoffs, we shouldn't replace a crappy reliever? Huh? Because we have adequate other internal options? You didn't say that, though. You said he shouldn't be replaced. If you would have said "We don't need to sign or trade for a bullpen arm because we have adequate internal options" there'd be no issue. You made it sound like you were arguing for keeping him on the team next year. No he didn't... you misread it. Look at the post he was responding to. The guy was saying Howry's production needed to be replaced and nilo was just saying that it didn't.
  10. If we got fuentes then why would we need Gregg...you talkin loco. Why do we need to replace Howry? He was no good last year and we were fine. So because we made the playoffs, we shouldn't replace a crappy reliever? Huh? I see what he was saying. Howry had nothing to do with our success last year. He was pretty much irrelevant and you don't need to replace irrelevance.
  11. Furcal? Soriano? Roberts? Peavy? I thought that Fukudome was our number one target last offseason though. According to Piniella it doesn't seem like Peavy is our number one target though. But who knows if he was being truthful or not. We should know by now that Lou always plays dumb. He says that about every player we're rumored to be after. I don't think there's any doubt they wanted Roberts more than Fuku And you're right about Soriano. I was thinking Furcal but I was a year early
  12. I'm not so sure that using him as the closer would limit his innings anyways. We all know how Lou is. As soon as Gregg and all the other mediocre arms in the pen start walking guys and getting into trouble in the 8th you know he'll bring in Marmol for an extra out...or 2...or 3 Really Lou can't help himself when it comes to relievers and Marmol. I oculd see him saying to Rothschild before the game "Okay seriously Larry, you CAN NOT let me use Marmol for mroe than an inning tonight. It's your job to stop me...no matter what I say"
  13. Kevin Gregg nets us draft picks if he closes for us and closes well. Carlos Marmol can be more effective for us if he isn't closing. That's as far as I need to think about it. But how will Marmol take the news that he isn't going to be closer? I'm sure he would be a little trooper and say the right things like, "whatever's best for the team" and such, but you have to think the guy will want to close. Put yourself in Marmol's shoes, don't you think he deserves it? I'm not saying Marmol closing is the best thing for the team, but the way Larry and Lou managed his innings last year has me somewhat concerned. Who cares what Marmol thinks? He is the employee
  14. If Peavy doesn't go to the Cubs that will be 3 of the last 4 offseasons where we've missed out on our number one target. This would piss me off less than the other 2 though.
  15. Uh...........the White Sox? Dotel at $5 million and Linebrink at $4 million, perhaps? I was looking at just the best of the non-closers on those teams(i.e. Matt Thornton), but yes, the White Sox are a good comp, paying their 4th best bullpen arm 5 million dollars. Scot Shields is another one and David Riske is pretty close
  16. The Brewers had a few guys making around 5m as set-up guys. I think the Phillies also paid Tom Gordon around 5m, but he was on the DL. Plus nobody said that Gregg wouldn't end up being the closer next season. As for being a type A, Gregg just has be somewhat decent this year and he will. But after how he pitched the last two years, I don't know why we would suck next year at his age. Besides a two week stretch when Gregg was probably pitching hurt, he was pretty good last year. Riske? Who'd they trade for him? Actually, speaking of the brewers reminded me that the Torres trade is a pretty good comp...Ceda is much more highly thought of than either guy the Bucs got. They gave Riske 3/13 last offseason
  17. What Towers says means nothing to me, but I've been thinking lately that he's going to go somewhere other than Atlanta or Chicago. It seemsl ike something would have happened by now.
  18. If anything, Wood owes the organization for all the money wasted on him
  19. Then state it as the deal is: Gregg for Ceda + Wood and a 4 year guaranteed high dollar contract. How about: 1 year of Gregg as closer four first round draft picks $35M to spend elsewhere over 4 years vs Ceda + Wood Does that make anyone feel any better? No. Trading Ceda for Gregg wasn't the only alternative to not signing Wood. What are some realistic alternatives that can be had? Perhaps comparing them will be helpful. We're not in contact with other GMs so there is no way we could possibly know who is available. That's kind of a silly thing to ask. Then it is kind of silly to say that there are better alternatives. A) He never said there were better alternatives B) Just because you can't give examples of something doesn't mean it's not true
  20. Do you think he has more value than Gregg?
  21. Then state it as the deal is: Gregg for Ceda + Wood and a 4 year guaranteed high dollar contract. How about: 1 year of Gregg as closer four first round draft picks $35M to spend elsewhere over 4 years vs Ceda + Wood Does that make anyone feel any better? No. Trading Ceda for Gregg wasn't the only alternative to not signing Wood. What are some realistic alternatives that can be had? Perhaps comparing them will be helpful. We're not in contact with other GMs so there is no way we could possibly know who is available. That's kind of a silly thing to ask.
  22. seeya d00d
  23. id rather lose with wood than win without him. and i know i am not in the minority. Sorry but that's kind of embarrassing
  24. I think this is just leading up to Kerry Wood calling Jim Hendry tomorrow and saying "1 year/5 million and you've got me for 2009", cementing his legacy in Chicago. Either that or.. not that
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