I still don't understand why you're under the impression that the Padres would want Gregg. He probably has negative value to them Your probably right, but Im just baffled about the Gregg trade otherwise. Greggs not particularly bad, and Im not saying that Cedas is the next K Rod, but he was one of our top trade chips, and we traded him for a guy who we really had little to no use for, with 1 year under team control. It could be that for once Hendry traded a player while his value was the highest, and got a decent return for someone he didn't see fitting into the Cubs plans in the future. He may have traded him while his value was highest, but he didn't get true value for him. He basically gave him away for a mediocre reliever who will make millions next year. It doesn't matter if he doesn't fit into the Cubs plans, he still has value that can be used. I can't stand when people use that argument. True value is in the eye of the beholder. Obviously, Hendry values Ceda a lot less than we do. Until Ceda comes to the major leagues and puts up numbers better than Gregg, I will give Hendry the benefit of the doubt. Plus, the Cubs got Ceda for basically nothing. One of the reasons I like this move is that Hendry is being proactive early in the off season. With Gregg the Cubs have at least one solid bullpen arm guaranteed. If Gregg were in the Cubs pen last year he would have had the third best WHIP behind Wood and Marmol. If he has a similar season in 2009, he is an upgrade over every other pitcher in the pen. Hendry still has time to go out and get some other arms, but he is not held hostage in free agency. So because he got Ceda for nothing it's okay to give him away? I really don't think you should be giving Hendry the benefit of the doubt, especially when trading young pitchers to the Marlins. I also think you think Gregg is better than he really is. He's an average pitcher with an above average salary. Plus saying that he had a better WHIP than anybody on our team last year not named Wood or Marmol isn't really saying much. And you think Gregg is worse than he really is. A 1.27 WHIP is not average. Ceda had around a 1.30 in A+ ball. That is against low level major league hitters. Why is it that you apply a double standard when you evaluate talent. By your logic if a 1.27 WHIP pitcher in the majors is an average reliever than....a 1.30 A+ ball pitcher is WAY below average, because he is facing much worse talent. People are getting carried away with Ceda's ability to throw a 95 mph fastball. I don't think anyone is getting carried away with Ceda. Nobody here is in love with him We know what he is. I wanted him to be traded while he had value this offseason, just not for Gregg. For other organizations with decent farm systems this trade might be okay. Ceda is one of the few players we have in the minors that actually has trade value. We can't be wasting those guys. BA ranked him our 4th best prospect in 2008 so he's not trash. Also, I'm not sure why you're using his WHIP at age 21 in AA to determine how good he is anyways. I'd say the fact that he is missing a ton of bats at that level at a young age is a lot more relevant.