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No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't. I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player And the other positions that Teahen plays are positions he won't be playing for the Cubs, thus he really has no more value than a guy we already have that can only play corner outfield positions. Guys who can lay multiple positions always have more value even if those positions are filled. Felixibility is always welcome and needed over the course of a fukll season. My point is that I don't get the comparison between Teahen and Hoffpauir. Hoffpauir is a first baseman and can't play the outfield every day. Teahen can, as well as other positions Hoffpauir can't. How much value does Teahan have playing anywhere other then pitcher with his .715 OPS or 91 OPS+? He has had one year as an acceptable big league hitter. I would hate to see us give up anything good to get him. You're completely missing the point. I'm just saying that I don't get the comparison between him and Hoffpauir. I don't want Teahan. My point about positions was that a guy who can play multiple positions has a bit extra value because you can plug him in late in games after double switches or when guys need a day off, blah blah. The only reason I brought it up was because that's something Hoffpauir is not. I don't want Teahen.

No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't. I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player And the other positions that Teahen plays are positions he won't be playing for the Cubs, thus he really has no more value than a guy we already have that can only play corner outfield positions. Guys who can lay multiple positions always have more value even if those positions are filled. Felixibility is always welcome and needed over the course of a fukll season. My point is that I don't get the comparison between Teahen and Hoffpauir. Hoffpauir is a first baseman and can't play the outfield every day. Teahen can, as well as other positions Hoffpauir can't.

I mean, think about this for a second. Both Towers and Wren, 2 General Managers for MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL teams have been working on a potential trade for a while right? So you mean to tell me that's all been useless, and that Peavy would have never accepted a trade there anyways? And neither of those GMs wrere aware of that, yet some guy in a casino who briefly chatted to Peavy knew about it? Come on. You know perfectly well if we were Braves fans reading this stuff we'd laugh. The 2 millionaire GMs don't know about it, but DonnieD does? Plus there's the fact that Peavy had the Braves as one of the 5 teams he'd accept a trade to in the first place. I think people want to put too much into Donnie's story and aren't being reasonable because of it. What if I told you DonnieD was a billionaire? My point wasn't that they are millionaires...it's that those millions were paid to them to run a professional sports organization. So DonnieD being a billionaire wouldn't be relevant unless those billions came from the Padres or Braves.

He's out of here, let it go. There have been some rumors that he isn't getting a whole lot of interest on the market and some speculation that he might end up signing back here. Doubtful, but possible.

He had a .777 OPS last season. That is below average for a RF, especially one who doesn't play defense better than me. I wouldn't want him or Patterson to come anywhere near a starting job, but at least Patterson would have value off the bench and late in games. I don't really see a single thing Griffey brings to the table at this point. He'd be a waste of a roster spot IMO. I'd rather give it to Hoffpauir

No. Teahen can actually play outfield as well as others positions Hoffpauir can't. I don't want him though, unless it's for scraps and he's used as a bench player

He can't give what he doesn't have. Towers said it himself, the Cubs don't have enough pieces that are attractive to him, and that's why they're trying to get a 3rd team involved. You said it yourself, this is Jake Peavy. It's nt as simple as saying "do what you have to do".

I think people are putting way too much into Donnie's story. I don't mean that as an insult to Donnie and I believe what he says is true, but a lot could depend on how he interpreted things. I mean, think about this for a second. Both Towers and Wren, 2 General Managers for MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL teams have been working on a potential trade for a while right? So you mean to tell me that's all been useless, and that Peavy would have never accepted a trade there anyways? And neither of those GMs wrere aware of that, yet some guy in a casino who briefly chatted to Peavy knew about it? Come on. You know perfectly well if we were Braves fans reading this stuff we'd laugh. The 2 millionaire GMs don't know about it, but DonnieD does? Plus there's the fact that Peavy had the Braves as one of the 5 teams he'd accept a trade to in the first place. I think people want to put too much into Donnie's story and aren't being reasonable because of it. I think people are taking DonnieD/Peavy's words at the casino wayyyy too literally. If it's true that Peavy won't accept a trade to the Braves, then Wren and Towers would know about it and they wouldn't still be talking.

According to like one or two crappy writers What writers aren't crappy? Rosenthal was as high a profile guy reporting on this as there was and he, IIRC, reported that Dempster and Peavy wasn't a mutually exclusive proposition for the Cubs. Again, that's IIRC and I'm much too lazy to look for quotes on this. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. That's kind of the point. Apparently Rosenthal is pretty terrible, except for when one of his rumors involves something good for the Cubs. Then he's very reputable. That's the way it seems here anyways

From everything I heard this offseason is the Cubs are looking for a LH power bat. So I don't think they have alot of interest in Furcal or even Brian Roberts. I don't think they've ever said power bat. Every quote from Hendry and Lou has been "left handed athletic guy"

According to like one or two crappy writers

What the hell? It's just a bunch of player-speak nonsense. They went out, played baseball, and lost. Now they have to come up with things to justify it and to "explain" it to the press. But saying that they felt like games 1 and 2 were guaranteed victories? Come on... that's a bad quote

What the hell? What a moron, and if it's true that they were over confident then that's pathetic

I heard that the Dempster signing doesn't necessarily mean we will quit pursuing Peavy. Peavy-Zambrano-Harden-Dempster-Lilly...*drool* Yeah Hendry isn't the type of GM to close the door on a pitcher like Peavy. Hendry doesn't control payroll. He has a certain amount of money to work with. If he spends like 10 mil on a RF I don't see how he can afford Peavy too Marquis money in '09= Peavy money in '09 Next. Huh? So you're assuming someone is going to take on Marquis' contract next year without us eating a big chunk of it? Yeah, good luck.

Seriously?

I heard that the Dempster signing doesn't necessarily mean we will quit pursuing Peavy. Peavy-Zambrano-Harden-Dempster-Lilly...*drool* Yeah Hendry isn't the type of GM to close the door on a pitcher like Peavy. Hendry doesn't control payroll. He has a certain amount of money to work with. If he spends like 10 mil on a RF I don't see how he can afford Peavy too

According to another board Levine was just on ESPN 1000 and said Bradley is the only RF Hendry is looking at. Gotta love that .436 OBP and .999 OPS. His injury history is somewhat discouraging, but with our depth we could afford to have him play in only 120-130 games. BTW, what board was this? And consider me on board for Bradley. Even if he only play 110-120 games that would be alright since we have the felixibilty with DeRosa, Fontenot, Fukudome, etc. I'd much much rather have 110 games of Bradley than 145 games of Ibanez or somebody like that.

Except that Griffey can't hit anymore Come on, the guy is done. Putting DeRosa in RF and Fontenot at 2nd would be a better option. Edmonds would also be a much better option, among many others

According to another board Levine was just on ESPN 1000 and said Bradley is the only RF Hendry is looking at. Gotta love that .436 OBP and .999 OPS. His injury history is somewhat discouraging, but with our depth we could afford to have him play in only 120-130 games. He's the "only" RF he's looking at? I find that extremely hard to believe.

Anyone, we'd be better off with ANYONE over Griffey. Corey Patterson begs to differ i'd take patterson over griffey :lol: I don't think you understand how bad griffey is defesnively and how much worse he's likely to be at the plate next year. At least Patterson isn't a liability on both sides of the ball and could be used as a defensive replacement/pinch runner. Griffey is literally worthless.

I can't imagine us still being after Peavy with the Dempster signing.

Backloading is way smarter than frontloading. Explain

I'm pretty sure it's a player option, making the contract even worse. If he sucks he picks it up, if he's good he opts out.

Awful signing.

DeRosa probably doesn't have a lot of value but that's like the least valid reason why No its not. He's not a valuable barganing chip because its unlikely that he would be a long term solution for any team he gets traded to. Maybe if the third team was a contender we could discuss it, but its definitely a valid reason why. i think the fact that he only has one year left on his contract kind of made it a given that he wouldn't be a long term solution for anyone. do you think i'm talking about trading him to san diego? i'm not. i was talking about trading him to a contender in need of a 2B and then flipping the piece they get back to sd. I'm not, as I said above if the third team was a contender then its a different story. Uh my whole point was to trade him to a contender, I thought that was a given. There's no "if" involved. Why would a non-conender want him? Age isn't really that relevant because he wouldn't be a long term solution for the team getting him and he's coming off his 3 best seasons and a career year. That was my point. I still don't think a contender would find much value for him either. Some value but not a ton. Probably not, but that's why I asked. I mean the Marlins got a decent pitching prospect for one year of Kevin Gregg so it's not far fetched to think Hendry could possibly get a prospect that is attractive to the Padres for DeRosa. As others said though, it probably wouldn't be worth it and would take away a lot of flexibility.