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  1. Well in that scenario they go back to being one bat short in addition to the pitching needs. I believe what's being discussed around here is essentially salary dumping Bellinger and then replacing him with a free agent bat (or a Vlad, Tucker, etc) that fits their offensive needs a little better (namely, more dongs). Which puts you right back where you started on the roughly $50m for catcher/pitching/bench upgrades.
  2. Yeah this is all well thought analysis, but what if I’ve decided that everything Jed has ever done has been stupid and therefore every thing he will do is stupid, can I still freak out about this
  3. Me a glutton for punishment? You hate every single move they have/haven't made or you've decided they will or won't make since he took over and yet you're still here making the same comments on every inconsequential move that they make. I see a team that actually won 83 games last year, made at least one significant in season move to improve the roster, lost zero players of value last year, and has roughly $50m to spend in addition to probably the best AAA lineup in all of baseball. I've thrown out concepts/ideas that make sense to me in other threads. Didn't think I had to do it in the Matt Thaiss one.
  4. Between December and February last year the Cubs claimed/signed/whatever Joe Hudson, Jorge Alfaro, Brian Serven, and Pablo Aliendo just as catchers and they collectively received zero PAs for the 2024 Cubs. Who. Cares.
  5. Ok sure whatever but do you understand how tiring it is to have that be a comment you felt was worth making on November 21st in a thread about the Cubs paying cash for a AAAA catcher
  6. Jed's been in charge for 4 years. If we're going to give him 'a decade', then we also have to give him a World Series, 3 NLCS appearances, etc. The team broke in 2021 and there were approximately zero reinforcements coming through the pipeline. Probably at least partly his fault, sure! Writing off this entire offseason in late November not because of inaction but because of....insufficient action? when approximately all of the top 50 free agents are unsigned?...is exhausting. It's a nothing trade, this and every other roster churning move he does doesn't have to turn into some Referendum of Jed.
  7. Your guys confidence in your diagnosis of Hoyer based on a sample size of essentially 2 offseasons of contention is either really impressive or really tiring. It's November 21st and he's made two trades of like the 6 that have been made league wide, so we can't lean on the whole 'oh man he must be hibernating, lol', so instead we just criticize literally paying PTRs cash for a semi-functional catcher and getting a reliever with a sub 2 ERA for our 14th best prospect as 'well it's not Soto, so my priors are confirmed'. No one has signed or traded for anything good. There's 4 more months of this.
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  9. This was pretty much assumed of Pulisic before this particular event, wasn't it?
  10. Just wanted to know what the rules are here. We're taking general statements, not direct quotes from management, and collectively deciding amongst ourselves who the front office is ruling out and then requiring 'quotes' to consider a certain player an option again? Bertz included a blurb from one of the Athletic articles speaking specifically about Fried checking 'several boxes' and how a nine figure deal 'would not be unreasonable'.
  11. That's all good and I certainly respect the work you put into analyzing the players involved. Ultimately it still seems like the hypotheticals are based on some level of...I have a unique valuation of Player X and therefore Options A, B, C, etc are open if you accept these assumptions. Like, is it just the Cubs that would have these very optimistic views of Matt Shaw? A 'really good' Matt Shaw with 6 years of control is significantly more valuable than 2 years of Hoerner. Can he headline a Skubal deal? Does your thought process change then? I think ultimately where we diverge here is that you're much more willing to question the baseline understood valuations of discussed players and maybe even end up in positions where you think the rest of baseball is over/under valuing certain players, and I'm more interested in taking the numbers at somewhat face value (since the FGs and BBTVs and whatever of the world put way more time into this than I do) and figure out how to maximize overall production based on those. Not saying you're wrong! Just think that we are thinking about it differently.
  12. Sorry, I wasn't trying to reduce/minimize the point of the article, that was more a (flippant) response to the conversation that had been going on in the responses. I certainly think it's important to dig into what the Cubs could get, but I also think you have to look at it in terms of the overall roster construction, where we are in terms of the win curve/goals for the near and long term future/etc. Ultimately for me, where it falls out is that I look at Hoerner, Paredes, and Shaw, and I look at a team that seemingly should be trying whatever they can to win immediately (2025), and I see Hoerner as the most reliable option to produce value for the team in the near term future and also the one who would bring back the least amount in a trade (due to the contract length, mostly, but also this weird thought process he's slightly upscale Ryan Theriot). So fine to talk about what he can bring to the table in a trade, but also should have the conversation of 'should we do it?' (similar to your point #2) and I think the answer to that question is 'No".
  13. The Cubs especially don't have infinite money when you commit $26m a year to the guy who has a Steamer projection of 3.4 fWAR to replace our league minimum guy who has a Steamer projection of 3.3 fWAR.
  14. Wait until you hear about the 2B worth 12.8 fWAR over the last 3 years
  15. Fair point on the offense thing, they made some moves at the deadline that definitely helped them pick it up. In terms of stages/relevance/etc, I think it's more likely the Cubs make the playoffs in 2025 than the Mariners do.
  16. I'm probably oversimplifying but this obsession with losing non-first round picks is seeming maybe a little disingenuous? Like the conversation has evolved to the point where it's a bad look to be like 'this player isn't worth the money', and so now we're just being like 'oh no, not a draft pick!'. Aware that the Fangraphs of the world have assigned a rough value to those picks, but like....can anyone name our fifth round picks from the last 5 years?
  17. $10m (or more) a year for a guy with a 58% GB rate (would be highest in MLB!) and an unsustainable BABIP to take a starting spot away from our 4.3 fWAR shortstop, 3.9 fWAR second baseman, or our 3.4 fWAR third baseman "almost every day"? Pass. Just....buy pitching. I would love to get an actual, proven elite bat. But realistically, two starters, a high end pen guy, pick a 30 year old catcher out of a hat.
  18. I feel like every time I see Reichel's name he's either like, getting sent down to Rockford/healthy scratched or proclaimed as a future first liner of the next contending Hawks team. Is it still somehow both?
  19. I mean, it's the -2.3 fWAR that they got from second base last year and the fact that teams in playoff contention will be more willing to overpay in a mid-season acquisition. They probably address the issue in the next couple months, but they also have Trevor Story locked up for a 'gazillion cap dollars' for a gazillion years and their top prospect is a shortstop (with only half a year of AA under his belt). Is 1.5 years of Hoerner enough for a AAA-performing Teel? Probably not. But if we aren't going to compete in 2025 Hoerner becomes pretty in the way, big picture, if we have to package some relievers or whatever, why not. This all started with the caveat that it required us performing at like the 10th percentile outcome as a team for three months anyways.
  20. Yeah, for me it's a worst case scenario silver lining. No interest in the 'let's rearrange all the deck chairs just to get Hoerner out of the lineup for some reason' for a team with aspirations to win. But if things go wrong and you're looking at a lost season, then yes, clear the spot, use your attractive trade asset for more future reinforcements, etc.
  21. Nico Hoerner (and then some, probably) for Kyle Teel is something to keep in the back pocket if we're 35-50 at the ASB.
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