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[rant] Hey. Eric Wynalda. Yeah you. I get it so you can stop already. You think Miroslav Klose looks like Jurgen Klinsmann. I GOT IT!! I understood you the first 3827445 you made the comparison so the 3827446th time wasn't necessary. [/rant] Sorry, just had to vent.

The Gaints gap is a biggie. Especially when they have to look across the bay and see the A's victories. Or down the coast to the Dodgers. My dad (a Dodgers fan) loves that the Dodgers have won multiple WS titles while in LA but the Giants haven't won won since they moved to SF (considering they did move within a couple years within each other). Actually they both moved in the same offseason (first season = 1958) Thanks for the correction. I knew at most they moved within 2 years of each other but didn't know it was the same year.

I wouldn't mind bringing Wood back with an incentive-laden one year deal assuming that the base salary is in the $2-3 mil a year range.

Dusty Baker actually has a brain. I'm not saying he uses it or it's actually functioning. I'm just saying that he has one.

The Gaints gap is a biggie. Especially when they have to look across the bay and see the A's victories. Or down the coast to the Dodgers. My dad (a Dodgers fan) loves that the Dodgers have won multiple WS titles while in LA but the Giants haven't won won since they moved to SF (considering they did move within a couple years within each other).

Well I hope you aren't coming for the baseball team.

Wow. What a pathetic game thread. Well, I guess it fits the team.

I voted "Cows?"

Do you also remember Game 7 in 2002 against the Kings?? ;) One of these days, I am going to re-watch that game and just count the injustices that occurred. Yes and the Kings choked in that game. It's Game 6 that you are thinking of with the injustices and I'll give you that one. Here are the box scores. Game 6 Game 7 The Kings blew Game 7 because they went 16-30 from the free throw line while the Lakers went 27-33. Game 6 you can make a perfectly good case for so I'm not debating you on that one. The Lakers earned Game 7 but Game 6, well, you know. EDIT: The Kings also shot 2-20 from three point range in Game 7.

Disagree. Owen has not been playing up to snuff the entire time, now that England can call up someone new, they will have a full-time striker. Not disagreeing with you, just curious. Who else do they have as options besides Crouch and Rooney? And what do you mean by "call up" - can they drop Owen from the team and bring in somebody else.

There is one exception to this that I can think of and that's when teams used to do the Hack-A-Shaq and would just grab Shaq up until there were two minutes left in the half (when the foul became a shoot the free throws and get the ball back situation) to send him to the line. Shaq often had games where he would shoot 20+ FT's and occasionally had a game with 30+ FTA. He even had a game where he shot an unbelievable 39 FT's against Indiana in Game 2 of the 2000 NBA Finals. I'm not old enough to remember if they did this to Wilt as well but I believe they did IIRC. I believe that Wade broke Bob Petit's record for free throw attempts in an NBA Finals game.....so the numbers go back for a while Basketball-Reference It's the game on 2000-06-09. Wow....that I did not know......thanks.....quite the stat......for some reason I thought the announcers referred to Petit....I must have not been paying attention...thanks for the # I'm a Lakers fan. I remember the Hack-A-Shaq like it was yesterday and figured Shaq had a game of 25 FT's in the finals. I didn't know he had 39 though. That amazed me as well.

I took an Exercize Biology: Sociology of Sport class a couple quarters ago. We were talking about games that are sports and others that are spectacles. The WWE obviously fell in the spectacle category but he said that the NBA is closer to falling into that category than the other "major" sports. I agreed with him then and do even more so now.

I can't wait to hear what Mark Cuban is going to say about this.

There is one exception to this that I can think of and that's when teams used to do the Hack-A-Shaq and would just grab Shaq up until there were two minutes left in the half (when the foul became a shoot the free throws and get the ball back situation) to send him to the line. Shaq often had games where he would shoot 20+ FT's and occasionally had a game with 30+ FTA. He even had a game where he shot an unbelievable 39 FT's against Indiana in Game 2 of the 2000 NBA Finals. I'm not old enough to remember if they did this to Wilt as well but I believe they did IIRC. I believe that Wade broke Bob Petit's record for free throw attempts in an NBA Finals game.....so the numbers go back for a while Basketball-Reference It's the game on 2000-06-09.

lord, the guy cant catch a break can he? Well he can, just not the good kind.

There is one exception to this that I can think of and that's when teams used to do the Hack-A-Shaq and would just grab Shaq up until there were two minutes left in the half (when the foul became a shoot the free throws and get the ball back situation) to send him to the line. Shaq often had games where he would shoot 20+ FT's and occasionally had a game with 30+ FTA. He even had a game where he shot an unbelievable 39 FT's against Indiana in Game 2 of the 2000 NBA Finals. I'm not old enough to remember if they did this to Wilt as well but I believe they did IIRC.

"I want to say something about Dwayne Wade, but I fear I may get called for a foul." - From the Sports Guy emails. Amen.

What about a Game 6 on the road? :wink: Not sure on that but the stat I listed above proves my point that Miami needs to win Game 6. I'm not saying they can't win Game 7 on the road, I'm just saying that it's extremely hard.

ARam crushed that ball.

Time to post the games for Wednesday June 21. We will have the final group stage games for both Groups C and D. Here are the current standings: Group C Team W D L P GS GA GD Argentina 2 0 0 6 8 1 7 Netherlands 2 0 0 6 3 1 2 Ivory Coast 0 0 2 0 2 4 -2 Serbia & Montenegro 0 0 2 0 0 7 -7 Argentina v Netherlands 12 PM PT on ESPN Ivory Coast v Serbia & Montenegro 12 PM PT on ESPN 2 Both Argentina and Netherlands have advanced. Winner takes the group but if they tie, Argentina wins the Group. Ivory Coast and Serbia & Montenegro have been eliminated. Group D Team W D L P GS GA GD Portugal 2 0 0 6 3 0 3 Mexico 1 1 0 4 3 1 2 Angola 0 1 1 1 0 1 -1 Iran 0 0 2 0 1 5 -4 Mexico v Portugal 7 AM PT on ESPN Iran v Angola 7 AM PT on ESPN 2 Portugal has advanced and Iran has been eliminated. Portugal wins the group with a win or a tie. Mexico wins the group with a win but will advance with a tie or a loss and either an Iran victory over or tie with Angola. Angola must win and have Mexico lose to Portugal (not sure on the specifics with the tiebreakers) to have a chance to advance. The winner of Group C will play the runner up of Group D (and vice versa) in the Round of 16.

Losing Owen is not going to help England's chances to win the cup.

Final Group B Standings Team W D L P GS GA GD England 2 1 0 7 5 2 3 Sweden 1 2 0 5 3 2 1 Paraguay 1 0 2 3 2 2 0 Trinidad & Tobago 0 1 2 1 0 4 -4

Final Group A standings: Team W D L P GS GA GD Germany 3 0 0 9 8 2 6 Ecuador 2 0 1 6 5 3 2 Poland 1 0 2 3 2 4 -2 Costa Rica 0 0 3 0 3 9 -6

Just to throw another stat out there from Elias. The last time a team won a Game 7 on the road in the World Series, Stanley Cup Finals, or NBA Finals was 1979 when the Pittsburgh Pirates beat the Baltimore Orioles to win the World Series.

Why? So we can trade him? How long is his contract for, and how many starts do you think he'll take away from Marshall? I don't think it would be a bad thing if Miller did take some starts away from Marshall. Marshall was injured most of last year, so it would be good to somewhat limit his pitching this year (much like they did with Prior in 2002 when they shut him down for about the last month). Miller is signed for just this season. Unlike similar situations in previous years (Dempster, Williamson) the Cubs don't have an option on Miller for next year. Partly so Marshall doesn't get worked too hard and partly so we know what he could provide for next year. If he comes back and sucks, it's not a big deal because he's not signed for next year. But if he comes back and plays well, then he could have a spot in the rotation next year and make it easier to let Wood/Maddux go.