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  1. CaliforniaRaisin
    First of all, he missed a start after that. Secondly, the tests showed no ligament damage. Then they ran a bone scan which showed that Prior had the equivalent of shin splints for the arm, which he pitched through for the remainder of the season. I can't believe I'm actually engaging in a conversation about Prior's pain threshold.
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    Whether he has perfect mechanics or not is irrelevant to the point. When a pitcher tires, he compensates by altering his mechanics and that's when the injury risk magnifies. If he said he wasn't tired and could keep going in all of those games and did it without showing any effects time after time, I can't see how that is their fault. Prior's never had a problem taking himself out of the game when he thinks something doesn't feel right, so I doubt he would just lie every time. Prior's never had a problem taking himself out of a game when he thinks something doesn't feel right? What about that 2003 season itself, when he colided with Giles and stayed in the game? And I've seen countless times where Prior and Z have started changing their mechanics the later they got in the game and the more they labored. So Prior definitely showed the effects. It's Rothschild's fault for not picking up on this, or if he has, for not making the right moves.
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    That's not good enough. It wasn't hindsight when we were up in arms over the treatment as it was happening (many predicted it would happen before Baker officially signed). You can't just say, "Well, they might have ruined him, but that's in the past, let's move on." That's incompetence. Another good point. I know I wasn't the only one upset throughout the 2003 season (and heck, that 135-pitch game for Prior in 2002). This isn't hindsight here.
  4. CaliforniaRaisin
    Whether he has perfect mechanics or not is irrelevant to the point. When a pitcher tires, he compensates by altering his mechanics and that's when the injury risk magnifies.
  5. CaliforniaRaisin
    That certainly was odd. Haha.
  6. CaliforniaRaisin
    Shoulda been a PK for Croatia. Woulda been more deserved than Ghana's.
  7. CaliforniaRaisin
    OK, here's the scoop. From the day Prior came back from his Giles event (8/5/03), there were three instances where this is true and alll were in consecutive starts. He had 7 runs leads after 6 IP against St. Louis on back-to-back starts 8/26 and 9/1 where he ended up going 8 innings both times (116 and 131 pitches). His next start, he had a 5-1 lead against Milwaukee after 6 IP that he ended up going 7 and 129 pitches. He later had 124-133 pitch games his last 3 starts, but all were close games. Wood only had two scattered such instances. He had one game where he pitched an extra inning against Milwaukee after having a 10-2 lead. He went 122 pitches then. His other game was the game against Cincy where he had a no-hitter going in the 7th with a 6-0 lead. Baker did remove him after the Pena scratch hit and 122 pitches. Every other lengthy start was in a close game. Zambrano had a stretch of 8 out of 10 starts with 110+ pitches from August to mid-September, then was ineffective for his last 2 regular season and all 3 post-season starts. Of these he also had two games where he was overextended with late leads. So, in a nutshell, there is a lot of validity to both arguments. These guys had to go long in most of their starts to get that 1 game Central Division title and that NLDS victory. But, there were several instances where even that bullpen could have saved these guys 30+ pitches - just enough to perhaps keep Prir from closing out Game 6 or Wood from pitching well in Game 7. Thanks for looking that up for us, Sooner. If Prior and Wood had been saved a bit in blowouts, it could have made the difference (especially for Prior).
  8. CaliforniaRaisin
    Tempe holds on and wins it 6-5. :( Mesa had runners at first and second with one out but couldn't tie it up.
  9. CaliforniaRaisin
    Wow, they scored a second after I posted that! :D
  10. CaliforniaRaisin
    C'mon, Australia. All you need is a tie!
  11. CaliforniaRaisin
    Dang, Hank Conger is 3/5, with a single, double and a triple and 2 RBI. That's a heck of a way to make your professional debut. He did DH, not catch.
  12. CaliforniaRaisin
    Pagan was replaced on defense before the 8th inning started by Clifford Andersen. Angel's final stat line for the day is: 0/3, BB, SB, R. Mesa goes down quietly in the bottom of the 8th. To the 9th, they lead it 5-4. Randy Brown (not the former Bull guard) comes in to try to close it out and blows it. He gives up a single, a double (by Conger), a single and a FC which allows the Tempe Angels to score 2. To the bottom of the 9th we go, Tempe leads Mesa 6-5.
  13. CaliforniaRaisin
    Oddly enough, Samardzija is listed on Boise's roster on the MiLB.com website. I don't trust MiLB.com's rosters for Boise and Mesa. They're just guessing sometimes. I was basing it off BoiseHawks.com. Texascub, Wellington has been off their roster even before he got his AB a few days ago, so who knows.
  14. CaliforniaRaisin
    Castillo struggles in his third inning of work. Kyle Holden (2005 19th rounder) came in to provide relief, but allowed one of his inherited runners in. In the middle of the 8th, Mesa leads Tempe 5-4. Hank Conger is now 2-4.
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    Also, C Wellington Castillo, who was supposed to be on Boise's roster isn't there. Wonder where he's headed (I thought he was more likely for Mesa than Boise at the start of the season). Ya, I noticed that Blake Lalli popped up on Boise's roster in his place. Maybe he's injured or having visa problems? I know he was talked very highly of during spring training. Castillo got an AB in Boise's second game of the season. But he's not on Boise's web site's roster. They need to update! And I'd imagine it'd be hard to have visa problems at this time of the year since these guys should have been in Mesa since March.
  16. CaliforniaRaisin
    The only thing is, I don't want to see that ugly shot every game. :puker:
  17. CaliforniaRaisin
    He's really fleet of foot and nimble.
  18. CaliforniaRaisin
    Also, C Wellington Castillo, who was supposed to be on Boise's roster isn't there. Wonder where he's headed (I thought he was more likely for Mesa than Boise at the start of the season).
  19. CaliforniaRaisin
    Castillo with another shutout inning. At the 7th inning stretch, it's 5-2 Mesa. Mesa gets nothing in the bottom of the 7th, despite a Mercedes' IF single and a Parker double. Angel's 4th AB: Angel Pagan flies out to right fielder Angel Castillo. He's 0/3 with a BB, SB and a R.
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    Great goal by Japan. Great saves by their keeper too. Go Japan!
  21. CaliforniaRaisin
    Mesa scores 4 in the bottom of the 6th and takes a 5-2 lead. Angel Pagan walked, stole a base and scored. He's still 0 for 2.
  22. CaliforniaRaisin
    I can't believe I'm going to defend Dusty and the rest of Cubs management but the people on this board and others would have had a heart attack and probably would have burned Wrigley to the ground if the Cubs had shut Prior down in September with the division title within sight. Everyone would have been screaming for their heads. We can't have it both ways. 2003 is in the past and now we're paying the piper. Such is life. I didn't say shut him down, did I? Limit his pitches and innings. Although I replied to your post I didn't mean you specifically. If you recall all during the year Wood pitched well but got no run support and the bullpen would blow the game. Down the stretch run Dusty didn't have the faith in his bullpen to go to it which could have lessend the abuse of Prior and Wood. All I'm saying is no one was complaining when we were winning in September 2003. Hindsight is always 20/20. Believe me, I'm all for firing Baker and the whole coaching staff. There is plenty of ammo left in the gun for that. Actually, I was complaining about the innings Prior, Wood and Z were getting. Especially Prior and Z since that was their first full season. There were a few games where I thought it was a good time to take any of those 3 up (they were tiring, they had thrown quite a bit, etc.), especially with them due up to hit in the next frame. Dusty let them in and had to take them out in the next inning because they were struggling. I'll look at the boxes and game logs after work.
  23. CaliforniaRaisin
    Mesa has 2 guys picked off in the 5th inning, the second to end the inning while Pagan was up to bat. In the 6th inning, 18-year old Julio Castillo gives up 2 hits but gets out of the inning unscathed thanks to a 4-6-3 DP.
  24. CaliforniaRaisin
    Mesa is losing to the AZL Angels 2-1 in the middle of the 5th. Angels first round pick Hank Conger is 1 for 2 with an RBI triple. Mesa scored their only run of the game when Valerio Heredia reached on a bunt single, stole second, advanced to third on a Mario Mercedes grounder and then stole home. I wonder if MiLB.com's game log is lying to me on that one... Phil Norton went 2 IP and gave up both the runs. Leonel Perez threw 1 shutout inning and thus far, Ronald Clipp (2006 33rd rounder) has thrown 2. Angel Pagan is 0 for 2 so far: Bottom 1st: Angel Pagan grounds out, second baseman Alex Fonseca to first baseman Matt Ryan. Bottom 3rd: Angel Pagan flies out to center fielder Jeremy Moore.
  25. CaliforniaRaisin
    Angel Pagan is rehabbing with Mesa today. Mesa goes with this lineup: CF Angel Pagan SS Valerio Heredia C Mario Mercedes 3B Blake Parker 1B Adam Hackstedt RF Jeremy Williams LF Cody Gilbert (2005 34th rounder) DH Wilson Inoa 2B Pedro Lopez
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