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Well we have tons of statistical evidence that shows what a terrible decision gambling all your savings is. That's not the case with IP. I am totally in favor of caution, but IP is just one aspect to consider. To use only that and throw everything thing else out seems stupid. And as stated, even if you take the 30IP as gospel, you've already screwed up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I hope theres a direct correlation between chubbiness and OPS. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

No, I've read all the posts. I just can't recall Tim being this negative before. Okay that took a moment to sink in...I lumped myself in with WSR on something. OH....MY...GOD. #-o It's been a long week. :) I know I was too dramatic in my phrasing in the initial posts in the thread, but I stand by the logic of what I've said. Starlin is a good player now and is highly likely to be a really good player throughout his prime. But he will need to seriously step up his production down the stretch to avoid having this season be a step backwards offensively. I'm fine with it if that is the cost of adjusting his approach. But until those results are seen his projections have to be taken down a notch from where the were previously. Projection wise, why is an increased walk rate with a low babip a bad thing? I know you feel that the mid season cut off is arbitrary, but honestly the season cutoff mark is kind of arbitrary. If you look at his entire basis of work he had 1400ish straight plate appearances of a being a low walk high contact rate guy. Now hes had 200ish with a significant increase in walk rate while having that low babip. I think if that separation in approaches was between two seasons you wouldn't care and chalk up his crappy start to a season as bad luck bit encouraging because of the walk rate. It happened mid season instead, which isn't odd for high level athletes. Change doesn't have to occur in just the offseason. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unreal. This is an 19 year old Cubs prospect with a 1.151 OPS. In his first professional season. EDIT: 1.284 OPS. Can we put this into context for a second? Has this kind of crushery been duplicated in the past by someone at a similar age/stage of their career for us? 2004 Dopriak in low A (Lansing) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think Dopriak was 20 years old in his 2nd season. One year older, one level up. Similar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk And even then Vogelbach is about .200 points up on what Dopirak's OPS ended up being that year. Nuts. True but you have to temper it a little with sample size. Dopriak's season catapulted him to #21 on BAs ranking so it was pretty big. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unreal. This is an 19 year old Cubs prospect with a 1.151 OPS. In his first professional season. EDIT: 1.284 OPS. Can we put this into context for a second? Has this kind of crushery been duplicated in the past by someone at a similar age/stage of their career for us? 2004 Dopriak in low A (Lansing) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I think Dopriak was 20 years old in his 2nd season. One year older, one level up. Similar. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Unreal. This is an 19 year old Cubs prospect with a 1.151 OPS. In his first professional season. EDIT: 1.284 OPS. Can we put this into context for a second? Has this kind of crushery been duplicated in the past by someone at a similar age/stage of their career for us? 2004 Dopriak in low A (Lansing) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

oh quiet. You were supposed to change your name to raging anus if wilken or flieta stuck around to start the year. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Isn't this typical Lovie though? Hasn't he pretty much lied in the past in certain situations? He is very guarded in situations like this and the new GM is even more so. guarded, but not totally lying. For instance typical lovie might say a player being held out for precautionary reasons when he is actually hurt. But to just make up personal issues to cover an injury? Can't think of that ever happening. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

NL will have a DH soon enough. Can't make a man something he's not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

His weight is only an issue if he stops hitting. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

do we even have much in the way of youth to promote? I guess Campana, but I think we pretty much know what we have in him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Teague is way more raw than Butler was and Butler didn't get much time. Not surprising. Garpax has given us a lot more ball handlers it seems. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

will the Cubs have enough players to field a roster? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

hahahaa my heart literally stopped before my brain could even say "no way they did that" my first thought was with Jackson but then I looked up Choos stats I didn't realize he was that good. My friend is full of [expletive] and I'm gullible. Lo siento. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My friend from Cleveland just texted me and said its to the Tribe for Choo Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Not this year though. So there must be something Sveum just sees that has brought him to the conclusion he shouldn't be played there. Not sure what. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Actually has Baker logged much time at 3B at all? I guess Sveum just doesn't see him as a 3B. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

My memory exaggerated Soriano's backloading. Still I think its crazy to say Kenny had more resources than Hendry since he outspent him by $3m one year when the next year Hendry outspent him by over 30M. To pretend those two are equal is stupid. It isn't some binary thing like wins and losses. Theres a lot more than two outcomes when comparing salary discrepancies. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Name a GM who doesn't backload contracts. okay but Hendry did it to the extreme in 2006. What was Soriano's first year, 5 million or something? Not criticizing the decision. The point being that when evaluating two teams payrolls it makes sense to average it out because its pretty clear part of the reason their payroll explooded vs the Sox were those severely backloaded deals. I mean when we outspent them we outspent by a significant amount and a few of the years they outspent us it was nearly even. To say that Kenny Williams had equal or better resouces as Hendry because "they outspent 5 out of 7 years" is laughable. Hendry clearly had more at his disposal. Williams still had plenty and has done rather average at best with it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I've read that technological improvements in pool design and lane dividers have mitigated much of the disadvantage of the side lanes. Mostly now its about seeing the top competition better. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Show your work. Here you go. Format: Sox/Cubs/Diff. 2011 129/125/(+4) 2010 108/146/(-38) 2009 96/135/(-39) 2008 121/118/(+3) 2007 108/99/(+9) 2006 102/94/(+8) 2005 75/87/(-12) 2004 65/91/(-26) You know, 2012 numbers are out there too(White Sox +8 for the curious). But even then, you looked at this, and concluded that the best way to express it would be with the total number, and then to average that total number. Despite spending less than them in 5 of the last 7 seasons. You know, with the way Hendry backloaded contracts at time averaging out the payroll isn't the worst way to do it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Those pictures dont show the graves of puppies in the background. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

While it sucks to come crashing down from Delgado, any of these returns are fair. Take one, hope Garza makes his next start and sell Atlanta or whomever on him to still get that top level prospect. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Has there been any actual news since about 8 this morning? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

What? If Atlanta's decision is based on Dempster willing to sign an extension Reed Johnson isn't going to change their mind. If there was going to be something to change their mind, it would have to be someone young with team control, preferavly at a position of need. Even that likely wouldn't be enough if an extension was the sticking point. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk