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Really feeling like he's gonna bust. Unpolished product who can't stick on the field isn't a good combo.

The 17 looks a little like someone squatting to take a dump. that's a crazy mormon sex act I can see it now. The "Mormon 17" is like our 69.

That is an excellently designed KB logo The 17 looks a little like someone squatting to take a dump.

But, Barry Larkin...

Going more down the rabbit hole, Bears actually had the best expected W-L in the whole NFL last year at 11.5. But if you reseeded the playoffs on eW-L there would be only one change to the 12 PO teams (replace DAL with MIN). Many more changes to seeding and byes though. Long story short, Bears are winning Super Bowl LIV

538 had a good article last season, that prior year expected W-L (which is basically just a metric of point differential) was a better predictor of SoS than the traditional metric of prior year W-L. Last season it worked out that their adjusted SoS was much easier than the traditional metric. Wouldn't be surprised if it's the opposite this season. Edit--I was wrong. The expected W-L metric isn't kind to any of the 1st place teams the Bears have to play. The Bears on the other hand are treated fairly well by expected W-L (12 wins vs 11. 5 expected). But if you look at DAL, KC, NO, and both LA's they lose about 1.7 W on average. Bears SoS would be right around middle of pack at. 507 Be curious as to the metric you came across.

Matt Bryant or someone still hanging around?

Boy, didn't expect the Mormons to allow this. If you have enough money, any religion will pretty much allow anything... if they get their cut.

Yea no kidding. After the zero state income tax teams (DAL, HOU, SA, MIA, ORL, MEM), Illinois is one of the better states to be a millionaire with its flat tax at 3.75. Only PHI and IND edge it out. So it's still like the 9th best income tax state in the NBA. The current governor wants those making over $1m to be taxes at 7.95% on their total income, which would make it one of the worst. Wants to verse what's actually reality. That's at soonest in 2020 with a Constitutional ammendment.

Rrrrrrright, because no player wants to play in LA or NY either. I said it doesn't help, not that its something that shuts down any possibility of signing FAs. You still mixed up the definition of low and high though.

And ridiculously high income tax rates doesn’t help Rrrrrrright, because no player wants to play in LA or NY either. Yea no kidding. After the zero state income tax teams (DAL, HOU, SA, MIA, ORL, MEM), Illinois is one of the better states to be a millionaire with its flat tax at 3.75. Only PHI and IND edge it out. So it's still like the 9th best income tax state in the NBA.

i'll bite on this. if you told me the end goal of the tank years was to get right back to the 6-8 spot in the East (which is where they were before they blew the whole thing up), that would've been pretty unacceptable. i like Lauri and i think White should be good (not overly huge on WCJ, but he's a decent piece too), but to me, it seems like 99% of GM's would've been fired for whatever the hell this rebuild ended up being. but, you know, Jerry. 6 to 8 seed with what should still be one of the youngest teams in the league is a little different than 6 to 8 seed with one of the oldest. Also, hopefully that's not the end goal. Whether by consolidation trade or opening up a max slot after OPJs contract is up, they need to still ascend past 6 to 8 for it to be a success, but 3 offseasons to build a core and another 3 or so to ascend (or finalize) would be reasonable timeframe if they could pull it off.

Terrible is probably unfair, but just a total non-player focused FO. And it even goes back to Krause "organizations win Championship" stuff. They scream conservatism basically. Which totally doesn't resonate in this league and it's players. There should be a monetary/market argument to be made that they haven't capitalized on though.

I think you would have to follow the Nets model right? Fun young group of scrappy players but no superstars, good enough to make the playoffs, financially flexible enough to quickly open up enough cap space for 2 max guys. Basically you just have to make your team appealing enough to be a viable team up spot. I don't think Chicago is in the top tier of NBA towns (and the FO's reputation around the league doesn't help), but I think its a strong enough market to be a spot where superstars would consider teaming up to play in. Tier 1: Miami, LAL, LAC, GS, Brooklyn, NY (based on market alone) Tier 2: Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Boston, Philly, Phoenix Tier 3: Orlando, Charlotte, New Orleans, San Antonio (Any other warm weather city) Tier 4: Most of the rest of the league Tier 5: Cleveland I don't understand why Chicago isn't in that top tier. I mean I agree with you based on how FAs choose cities in the NBA. Players always list Chicago as one of their favorite cities to visit, but I guess they just don't wanna live here? On the radio yesterday I was listening and the host (I think Matt Spiegal) mentioned how the Bulls need to get more creative to lure top FAs. He mentioned maybe selling a small ownership stake to Obama or trying to get Chance involved with the franchise. The Nets are popular now, in part, because Jay Z had an ownership stake and was involved with the team. They also hired a new GM who has done an outstanding job with the rebuild there. I totally agree with his point about creativity. Our ownership group doesn't matter and GarPax and the rest of our FO is not well regarded by players. Obviously, firing GarPax and revamping the FO would be the first priority but getting more creative as a franchise should also help tremendously. NY is big enough to overcome the weather and Chicago is not, is the logic. Hasn't held true for the Knicks, and just now worked for the Nets. The Bulls brand is really strong globally though. I don't know if that just doesn't resonate with players or its just harder to capitalize because its the team/Jordan that's strong and not the players. Or it just hasn't worked out yet, cuz timing and stuff just hasn't worked out. But including Global presence the Bulls should have a bigger built in market than the Nets. But if you're a KD maybe you don't need that global boost because you're already a top 5 global player. Plus the stuff about the organization. There was some lip service that JR actually has resonated with players from a business accument standpoint, but it's probably just lip service. Then plenty of rumors that many hate the Garpax regime. Outside of changes to management the new practice center was supposed to be good for attracting players since they'd be a true downtown team and not spending half your time in the north shore burbs.

Making the playoffs will be nice (even as a 6 to 8 seed), but I don't like it if it gives GarPax more job security and validation for their rebuild efforts. I don't see how they break into the elite group atop the Eastern Conference in the next few years. The only way is if Markkanen and LaVine both take the leap to legit superstar All-NBA status (which is doubtful). I think you would have to follow the Nets model right? Fun young group of scrappy players but no superstars, good enough to make the playoffs, financially flexible enough to quickly open up enough cap space for 2 max guys. Basically you just have to make your team appealing enough to be a viable team up spot. I don't think Chicago is in the top tier of NBA towns (and the FO's reputation around the league doesn't help), but I think its a strong enough market to be a spot where superstars would consider teaming up to play in. Tier 1: Miami, LAL, LAC, GS, Brooklyn, NY (based on market alone) Tier 2: Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Boston, Philly, Phoenix Tier 3: Orlando, Charlotte, New Orleans, San Antonio (Any other warm weather city) Tier 4: Most of the rest of the league Tier 5: Cleveland I think under the current trajectory they won't be able to get two maxn spots to team up. But if Lavine or Markannen can become your "DeRozan for Leonard" trade, that guy recruits the next max slot guy as the team up. Coincidentally a DeRozan like career arc feels an awful lot like Lavine's best case comp if he can take another leap forward.

Making the playoffs will be nice (even as a 6 to 8 seed), but I don't like it if it gives GarPax more job security and validation for their rebuild efforts. I don't see how they break into the elite group atop the Eastern Conference in the next few years. The only way is if Markkanen and LaVine both take the leap to legit superstar All-NBA status (which is doubtful). 2021 Giannis is probably the most likely, which still isn't great odds (and you'd still need LaVine and Markkanen to enter All Star level territory).

Sounds like they'll try to move Dunn, which seems obvious. Doubt they'll get much, but maybe a swap for a player in a similar situation/contract, but fills a backup F/C role to bump Felicio back down the rotation a bit. Then a Room MLE wing player. Resign Arci as a 5th/6th G (along with Valentine who can't really stay healthy) Satoransky-White-Arci LaVine-Room MLE-Valentine OPJ-Hutchinson-vet min Markannen-Young-Felicio WCJ-*Trade*-Gafford Plus two two-way guys, hopefully wings as that's where they'll be thinnest depth wise.

Bulls 10 best players last year were probably : LaVine 2,171 MP Ryan Arci. 1,961 Markkanen 1,682 Robin Lopez 1,606 Kris Dunn 1,389 Holiday 1,323 WCJ 1,110 Parker 1,042 Portis 531 Otto 492 For context thats only about 67% of an NBA teams minutes (not even taking into account OT minutes). So they were giving about 1/3 of their minutes or more to D League type talent. And the second most minutes was still to a 11PER type player. The two FA are basically lower end starting level or 6th men caliber players and will get minutes to reflect that. But that's a huge upgrade. And even the better players they'll lose, like Lopez probably weren't great fits. They actually seem to have something resembling a cohesive unit, and not a mismatch of personnel fits that they've built several of the past few years. Barring huge leaps by young guys, they still lack top end talent, but sounds like the contracts are lined up to make 2021 a realistic FA play.

Replacing D league or worse player minutes with real NBA minutes. Better health (hopefully) Core development There might be a 7 or 8 seed with growth potential there.

I'm so out of touch with the NBA, I just heard about this guy, but the Bulls S&T for Tomas Satoransky. 6'7" PG. Many on RealGM saying he's a taller Arcidiacano. Sounds like a good fit.

that they are both RBIs also is pretty great

He doesn't have the energy on court as Noah did. He's a human highlight reel of dunks and blocked shots, though. Again, if he could be taught some plays like the pick and roll to go along with his open court game, he could be really good. Haha I meant just the pure mannerisms of White, not Gafford.

The hair helps this comparison, but his mannerisms really remind me of Joakim.

This seems fine.

They're actually pretty good at valuing firsts. It's the seconds they hand out like candy and the existing players that they hoard like the actual good candy.