Honestly, I think the high moral standard comes from obnoxious sportswriters and politicians with nothing better to do more than from the fans. With McGwire and Bonds, it was blatantly obvious they were using PEDs. Yet, their fans loved them and to this day still defend those guys. Go Milton go! You got your facts a little screwed up there man... Giants fans ignored the facts about Bonds, Us Card fans did'nt find out Mac was juicing until he had retired. Now that I know about it I hate his red headed guts, as do MANY St. Louisans. Why did'nt you mention Sosa? Maybe because nothing has come out on him yet? Pretty much that. I'll happily throw his name onto the pile of suspected guys, but I was going for guys who'd been confirmed abusers. Cubs fans still haven't found out if Sosa was juicing. My point was more along the lines of the "high moral standard" thing than anything else. I really don't think fans care all that much if players on their teams were abusing. To be fair, you did say that it was blatantly obvious that they were using (presumably meaning at the time). It wasn't proven until well after. One could fairly easily say that it was blatantly obvious that Sammy was using, too, which, obviously, hasn't since been proven to be true or untrue.