David

I was thinking the same thing.

And by "bunch of awesome AL teams" you mean two? Divisions aren't all that big. Sue me for generalizing 2 really really freaking good lineups as "a bunch." Would you prefer "a bunch of awesome hitters?" Or is that leaving the standard for awesome too low? Let's really dissect this.

How can you forget the mistakes of trading away future studs like Sean Gallagher, Eric Patterson and Jose Ceda? haha Who was flipping out over Patterson? Where was the outcry over trading Gallagher to get Rich [expletive] Harden? Who was gnashing their teeth over Jose Ceda being a "future stud?" The criticism of that one was over trading ANYONE to get a really unremarkable at best closer. The general attitude towards Ceda is that he was cheap and under the Cubs' control for a while and could be effective if he was able to keep his weight under control. So, in other words...what the [expletive] are you two giggling about? You do get why people would prefer giving up Lee or Archer as opposed to both, right? Actually, I'm pretty sure Ceda resulted in a decent amount of bitching. The other two? Nobody really remotely smart (thus, important) cared about giving them up, but, if I had to guess, there were probably one or two morons bent out of shape about it. Obviously, I understand why people would prefer giving up Lee or Archer as opposed to both (although, I don't even see why it boils down to that because Archer actually might be good and Lee, ehhh?). But that's not what's going on here. There are people freaking out, calling this an awful trade and using it as some blatant example of Hendry's ineptitude. I don't feel it's anywhere even close to that.

So how much better does Garza figure to be getting to face a bunch of crappy NL Central teams as opposed to a bunch of awesome AL East teams, plus one automatic out every 9 hitters?

4 of your top 15 prospects in a system that was going to be ranked in the top 10 in overall talent for a guy that Tampa will not part with unless you overpay. Move on. Just move on. If Garza meant the difference between winning or losing this year, I might agree to make that trade. This was a losing team last year, made moves based on not having any money to spend, and really hasn't improved the team significantly enough to justify this trade. St. Louis, Cincinnati and Milwaukee are all in a position to be better than the Cubs next year. Oh, and Philadelphia is still by far the best team in the NL. While I was all for trading for Garza provided it didn't cost too much in talent, Chicago is clearly overpaying. We know this because ONLY Chicago is showing any interest because the price is too high, and Hendry is bidding against himself. That's one way to stretch this and make it look like it was a lot more than it was. I can't really agree with the rest in terms of the Cubs ability to compete in this division, so if that's where you stand, we'll never agree.

How can you forget the mistakes of trading away future studs like Sean Gallagher, Eric Patterson and Jose Ceda? haha

Yea, that sucked.

Only one good season? wtf? His last 3 years look pretty similarly good to me.

One thing I usually disagree with this board on is the overreaction surrounding trading certain prospects. I would've been pretty happy had Archer turned into Matt Garza (who is a quality 27 year old starting pitcher). The rest is pretty much filler. Maybe Lee had more value, but it's hard for me to get torn up about it when I didn't see him panning out into much more than a defensive sub. EDIT - I might be missing an obvious one here, but the only time I've really felt we've gotten screwed on a trade was the Pierre trade.

I do need a better sense of humor though. How that example of comedic genius slipped by me is saddening.

Ah, so column A, like I said.

You're either becoming an obvious and blatant troll or your posts are idiots, at this point.

The Nomar deal took a month, if not more... the Harden deal was talked about for a couple weeks. It feels like it's been longer than a month that this deal has been discussed. It hasn't been, though.

Is Gordon Wittenmeyer calling Zambrano our 3rd best starter (presuming the Garza trade)? While I wouldn't agree with it, doesn't seem that egregious.

The Nomar deal took a month, if not more... the Harden deal was talked about for a couple weeks. Nomar was rumored as moving for about two weeks. He was traded July 31st and the original rumor had the Sox getting back Randy Johnson in mid-July. RJ is what held that up not what Hendry offered (RJ wasn't a final part of the deal). That wound up being a four-team deal--those take time--but what Hendry was paying for Nomar never seemed an issue. Harden went down the day after MIL got CC Sabathia (July 7th and 8th). Hendry was trying to get Sabathia as well and when that fell through he went to plan B--Harden. That's one day, not two weeks. Neither of those deals d r a g g e d on for months like Roberts and Peavy and, now, potentially Garza. Hendry will, and has, waited for free agents and even free agent managers. But if a potential trading partner is waiting on Hendry to sweeten the pot then he's likely not going to get it done. The Nomar deal was being talked about for a month. Certain outlets didn't pick it up, but others did. If I remember right, Bruce Levine had it in early July. Believe me, I know because I was obsessing over it immediately.

The Nomar deal took a month, if not more... the Harden deal was talked about for a couple weeks.

I guess this is as good a place as any to post this :lol: :lol: :lol: awesome

I really want JR Smith. I think his negatives are minimized on this team and his positives fit really well. Especially in the playoffs when he decides to play good defense on good players.

the TS being the same is the result of his awesome improvement from 3

He's taking more 3s than ever and sort of ignoring the midrange game that worked so well for him last season. i'm no expert, but i'm guessing his 3's at near 40% are a much more efficient way of scoring than his pretty decent midrange game that said, it's probably somewhat related to the wrist injury and just him being tired... also what IMB said

Wow. That's an incredible stat. Or.... the biggest factor in the outcome of the game was that the defensive line was all over the place causing several holding penalties and false starts. I was at that game and somewhat inebriated. Just how many of those were holds and false starts? That was the game Cutler had an INT or two wiped out by penalties on the late drive.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/chicago-bears/09000d5d81d47438/Playbook-Bears-Super-Bowl-bound awesome video

Absolutely it would be worth going all out for home field vs. the Falcons if the possibility actually presented itself.

That just means Todd Collins and the backups will try really hard for the 3/4 of the game they play.

I just want to not care about the game.