I don't know what you think my post was talking about, but I was calling your idea that black players should protest less visibly so white people would get involved idiotic and tone-deaf That's an incredibly foolish and obtuse distillation of my point. I wasn't suggesting that the protests should be less visible; I was responding to Tim's question on how the players could protest in a way that would be less offensive to large swaths of the population: the same population that the protesters are trying to reach. There are ways to do so, inclusive of ways that would likely get more participation from players, including more white players, who have been disturbingly absent from protests thus far. Of the guys who aren't joining the protests, there are probably a few groups: Group 1: They're racist Group 2: Not racist but don't think that police brutality is a problem Group 3: Not racist and think police brutality is a problem but concerned about the optics of kneeling during the national anthem ("not worth it") Group 1 is hopeless. Group 2 is likely very small but there's hope. Group 3 can be a very strong advocate -- and can be a more powerful one with a change in vehicle. What kind of protest could they do that wouldn't piss anybody off and make it easy enough on group 3 to participate? Protests are supposed to upset people. In this case, some combination of dumb, ignorant/uninformed, and/or racist people.