Transmogrified Tiger

Who knew, TOSU jumps right onto this topic? :lol: :wink: I cannot wait til we play the Irish. Tressel's gameplan has to be exploiting matchups with Ginn. He cannot let that game end without at least 15 OFFENSIVE touches for him. He'll light up that porous D. And if we lose, which we won't, I'll be back here after coming back from the Bulls game, ironically enough going to the game with a Michigan fan (it all comes back full circle) taking my lumps from the ND Cheerleaders. I remember saying something along the lines of "I hope you enjoy losing" to the PSU faithful prior to that matchup. What happened? OSU lost 17-10 and I stopped in and admitted the better team won. GO BUCKEYES! plz win by a lot

It's called alleteration. I think he was just talking about the word craptacular, which, I think would be onomotopeia, or however it's spelled.

Marcus Giles would be really nice to have. Difficult to see our strengths matching up with the Braves needs though.

The Reds don't have a log jam in the OF anymore. Plus, I doubt they'd want to trade him to a team in the NL Central. As much as I would love Dunn, I agree about their situation. I wonder how they'd respond to a Lee for Dunn + Freel deal, or something similar.

2005: .304/.349/.515/.864 2003-2005: .298/.348/.507/.855 2005: .271/.366/.459/.825 2003-2005: .280/.381/.495/.876 One is Gonzalez, one is Tejada.

Insinuating Rogers exaggerates to sell papers is libel? If that's libel all this nonsense about post counts is too. What example is there of people respecting the opinions of people more than others because of post count?

Now they're talking about Bedard for Dunn as a follow up. But ONLY if Dunn signs an extension. That's some serious Bedard love from the OH folks.

how are we doing the keepers? I vote for keeping a certain number of points. I think we should do a set number of players. For example, I have McNabb and Owens, and they both only played about half the year. They were great when they were in there, but cumulative they are equal to Tom Brady. That strikes me as a bit unfair that I get to keep both those guys at the same cost as O_O would to keep Mr. Brady.

Trade Lee.

You're sure to get there quicker by throwing jabs at the entire community in nearly every post. Sooner or later you'll wind up in an epic argument that'll up your totals.

I'm going to assume that's what you meant. Can you tell the difference between two hitters by using your eyes when the difference in them is one hit every 2 weeks?

There is no way. Jones is fast, he'll hit 2nd.

I agree Prior is the better player but Tejada is not "vastly overrated". For a SS to produce 6 year averages of - .800+ OPS 118 RBI (avg) 30 HR (avg) - is incredible. An argument for age (31) and decline may be legitimate in terms of future value. But I wouldn't call Tejada overrated against his peers at SS by a long shot. Here's the thing though. We already have Cedeno, who has a pretty good shot to be league average at SS. The positional scarcity is not a big a plus for us. Furthermore, given his age and that he's average at best defensively, there's a decent likelihood that he'll have to move to 3B or LF, at which point he becomes Luis Gonzalez.

We'd have Bedard too. O's fans think they are getting shafted in that proposed deal. They want something like Prior + Pie/Murton for Tejada or Prior + Pie + Hill + Cedeno for Tejada and Bedard.

Don't the trade requests/demands of players like Manny, ARod and Miggy run contrary to the notion that players only eant money? Well, once you have the money you consider other things. In Prior's case, he doesn't have his big contract.

Prior will win at LEAST 2 Cy's in Baltimore. At least. Leave it to Hendry to make the rotation a strength, then make it a glaring weakness at the expense of a 30 year old shortstop on the downturn. And then people wonder why he gets criticized. Maybe its pointless to point this out, but the trade hasn't actually been agreed to yet. This wouldn't be the first time Levine and the sports media have been very wrong about something. If this trade does happen, it will probably be by far the worst deal Hendry has made. But if I remember correctly, someone said Levine was still reporting it as a 50/50 chance that any kind of trade gets made. It doesn't matter if the trade hasn't gone through. Hendry has done stuff the past couple of years that have left him open to be criticized and IMO even offering Prior up for trade isn't a good thing either. What does that tell the player if the trade fell through? All of a sudden we have disgruntled players on this team. Then again he won't be the first to be disgruntled under Hendry's tenure. I am sorry, and I am not saying that you or anyone else currently involved in thsi convo was one of these guys, but a few months ago we had a protracted discussion re the relative importance (and existence) of "chemistry". Most asserted that it does not exist or that is does not matter. Many who took this position asserted that players should just perform and and be pros and not worry about their "feelings". I disagreed, arguing that this was an unrealistic approach. Does your bolded statement imply that Prior's feelings could effect his performance and the team's overall chemistry? Does anyone else think it might? I'm not going to speak for anyone else, but like Sulley said in another thread, my concern is Prior's willingness to stay with the organization after being thrown into trade talks, not on how he's going to affect the clubhouse atmosphere.

When it comes to baserunners allowed, I don't think there's a significant difference between leagues.

That's because it's only NL numbers and Howry was in Cleveland last year.

He's not significantly more valuable than Hill, who's also being moved in this deal. I very much disagree. Bedard has shown he's been able to dominate at the MLB level, Hill has not. There are legit concerns about Hill being a AAAA player. There's also legit concerns about Bedard being no better than a 1.50 WHIP guy at the major league level. His "dominance" was in a 60 IP span, and had some great fortune on balls in play. He's also 2 years older than Hill.

I think JH is counting on the rotation looking like this: Z Wood Maddux Williams Guzman I'd certainly rather it be that way than having Rusch in the rotation, so may be its wishful thinking on my part. Aside from Z the pitching rotation would be pathetic. Do you guys really expect Wood to be back and injury free? Maddux is likely going to regress again this year. Williams is a good #5 right now and Guzman is in the same category as Wood. TERRIBLE. So in the end we're going to lose Prior because we lost on Furcal. Jim.... settle down. Tejada is NOT worth Prior. Give them Hill, CPatt, Guz, and another. If they turn it down, it's their loss. Of course Baltimore is going to take this trade. They'd be idiots not to. I hate you, Jim. Honestly, truly hate you. You guys keep forgetting Bedard. He's a huge chip. He's not significantly more valuable than Hill, who's also being moved in this deal.

Trading for Tejada seems like a prime opportunity to cash in on Lee's enhanced value. There has to be some 3 way deal that nets us Tejada and Morneau, or Tejada and Sweeney.

I don't think this is the case. The O's weren't in original pursuit of Prior, they are trying to get something for Tejada. The Cubs are pursuing Tejada, therefore substituting him out makes no sense, where it can the other way around.

Jacque Jones will be traded next winter if Pie is ready. He should be pretty tradeable at $10 million over 2 years, since 3 teams offered him more than $15 million over 3 years. Good point. There will be interested teams. RF is not an easy position to fill. Teams may still be interested, but it's also worth pointing out he'll be a year older. Also, teams may be interested because Jones didn't cost anything in players. Of course we don't have to ask for anything in return...

Good move by Littlefield. Now please trade us Wilson. They may actually have a semblence of a lineup soon. Duffy Sanchez Bay Casey Gerut/Wilson Paulino/Doumit Wilson Castillo

In Wright's instance, the only difference in contract length is an option year for Pujols, and Wright will most certainly be cheaper. He's also younger and plays a position of higher need. I see why you'd take Pujols though.