Rice was a better hitter than Dawson. Dawson was better on defense. I can't see how anyone would vote for Dawson, yet pass on Rice. I wouldn't be so quick to judge Rice the better offensive player. Rice's career OPS was 128, Andre's 119. if Andre hadn't hung on four years too long, he'd be right there with Rice. Rice benefitted greatly from playing at Fenway, whereas most of Hawk's career was spent in Montreal. Rice also spent his years in very good to incredible lineups. the Hawk played with Raines, Carter, Sandberg...and that's about it. finally, not the most beloved metric around here, but Dawson also stole 300+ bases. Rice also has 30 points in OBP on Dawson, which combined with his better overall OPS means that he's the better offensive player. first, let me correct what I wrote above. the 128/119 comparison was OPS+, not just OPS. so again, account for the four years Dawson hung on too long, and they are probably about dead nuts even through 16 years in OPS+. and I forget that OBP is the end all / be all of offensive stats. Andre didn't take walks. this is true. but up until the age of 36 he was equal to or better in just about every other team independant offensive catagory. I knew you were talking about OPS+, and the point is that OBP is more valuable than SLG in OPS(and therefore OPS+), which makes his advantage in that category larger. It's not just walks in OBP though, Rice also hit for 24 more points of AVG in his career, and had a similar declining period as Dawson. 1230 PA's of 95 OPS+ performance for Rice, 1111 PA's of 88 OPS+ for Dawson.