I disagree about both of those. In short, Pierre's season may not have been a fluke and I'm not sold on the "pure speed and energy" aspect. Jones is just bad. This is the point though. People disagree. When people complain about this sort of thing I don't really understand what they want. Should we have 5 page threads commending Barrett for his double? A "Congrats on fielding a groundball correctly" thread? This is a place for discussion, and inevitably disagreements and therefore debate will happen, and happen often. No, but should you have a 10 page thread about how bad someone sucks because of a strike out, passed ball, error, etc? They happen. Threads don't go to 10 pages because of a specific incident, they extend to people's views of the parties involved on the whole.