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63 and bad at coaching, yeah sign me up for that!

So is Pat coming back? I hadn't heard definitively either way since it was initially thought he'd be lost for the season.

Yeah, I'm not worried about trading Fields at all. There were numerous reports about people in the building feeling he was special and had that "it" factor. I think that's why there was indecision that was reported with retaining Pace. There's just no way the organization is going to let prospective GMs get rid of a high-character special talent like Fields. Anyone who doesn't love him should not be considered. Not for not loving him, but because their qualifications should be seriously questioned considering the guys they interviewed are from organizations that have Baker Mayfield, traded a 1st for Carson Wentz, kept running Big Ben's corpse out there, and have Taysom Hill as QB1 (among other questionable things) at QB.

Yeah, there's really nothing that points to Frazier being a "top" candidate. Just someone they really want to give an interview to.

Well, the Nets, Bucks and Sixers all lost yesterday as well.

Kwesi Adofo-Mensah (w/ Niners) and Ed Dodds (w/ Raiders) have worked in the same organization as Harbaugh in the past. Jeff Ireland also a match. They parted ways with Mike Mayock earlier today.......which you know because you posted it in the other thread.

With the sheer number of minority candidates the Bears brought in, I'd be kinda disappointed if they end up with Dodds and Daboll (2 white guys), even though Dodds is my top GM choice and Daboll is the hot candidate. Daboll has been linked to the Bears all season (by Ben Allbright) and Dodds is considered the star GM candidate. But hiring both seems kind of predetermined and makes the whole process look like it was for show.

Also Rick Smith. Thanks, I'll add him to the list. And Ran Carthon. And Omar Khan.

The bears are the best open coaching location Daboll will interview and makes all the horsefeathering sense Raw remains cautious I'm teasing, I'm back to the guy who I felt the best about at the beginning of all of this. I think the question now is, will McCaskey agree? This could end beautifully I think the cautiousness comes from the Nagy experience. Offensive coordinator. Unsure about his leadership ability. Unsure about his ability to call plays with all the other duties as a first time head coach. Unsure about his ability to delegate without meddling. But the difference is that Daboll isn't running his version of his HCs offense. Daboll didn't only call plays for 6 games and maybe a playoff game. He's been running his offense for several years and has extensive experience under different regimes. He also has developed a QB and developed an offense perfectly geared toward said QB along the way. I'd say I've gone from more cautious to now more optimistic after last night. Not that 1 game really should matter that much (because what happens with a dud next week), but this was a perfect game against a top 5 defense. But like defensive coaches where so much depends on the OC hire, so much with Daboll depends on who he surrounds himself with if he can't continue to do all he does in additional to running the entire team.

Bears Twitter all about Daboll right now. Always been cautiously optimistic with him. Can't lie Fields would be a great fit for what he was running today, but Fields doesn't quite have Allen's arm. Sent from my SM-A115AZ using Tapatalk

I seem to remember a game where it sure looked like Foles said horsefeathers it and just started running his own offense through pre-snap calls. Or maybe it was the time they were driving in the hurry up and Nagy called timeout and completely upended the momentum. The guy was a terrible coach. Yeah, I see this more as him being a terrible coach, not a terrible person. I'm sure this stuff happens in an NFL lockerroom. Guys get frustrated and called out. Standing Mitch up is BS, but I have no problem calling him out. Sounds like he called out other players too. I wouldn't say team chemistry or willingness to play for Nagy was an issue.

Seems to matchup with what Nick Foles has been saying for 2 years, on or off the sidelines. Also, think Dalton and Fields have definitely expressed some level of frustration with things clearly not working on offense.

Somebody else wrote he signed a 5 year contract with only 2 years guaranteed and it was assumed by many it would be one and done. If he knew going in it would be 1-and-done, then cool whatever from his end of it. Still shitty for the Texans to make him a token hire, if there was literally nothing he could do to keep the job.

Ideally, he wouldn't deal with Fields too much. Hire a good OC and let them run the offense and stay out of the way/lead the rest of the team. that's exactly what I'm referring to, WHO would be the OC? In some cases, that becomes a harder question to answer than HC, particularity in Flores case Post above yours is exactly who I was thinking. Pep Hamilton. Sounds like they may be a package deal. Houston doesn't want to lose Pep though.

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To your point, Mike Tomlin is literally the only black HC in the whole league right now. Brian Flores will probably get another HC job, but that's such a bad look. The 2020 Texans went 4-12 with Deshaun Watson, the fact that Culley went 4-13 without him is a legitimate accomplishment. Exactly, and it's not like he had any benefits of what could have been a loaded draft class with the #3 picked earned from 2020 because they traded all their picks away. I know it takes 2 to tangle. Culley probably knew what he was getting into, and part of me can't blame him. It's a lifelong dream probably to be an NFL HC. And he got the chance right before retirement. But that doesn't make it right.

The Culley firing actually legitimately pisses me off. Knew it was going to happen too. He clearly wasn't the most qualified for the job, as he kinda came out of nowhere. But I'm sure it was a lifelong dream to be an NFL HC, and he definitely did as good of a job there in Houston as anyone could have with a horsefeathers roster. Very clear to me when he was hired that it was done to try to prove the organization isn't racist w/ it's racist owner and at the time this lawyer dude was being accused of being racially motivated to take down Watson for wanting to leave (I don't believe this FWIW). Was very clearly a "see we hired a black coach!" move, and they gave him one of the bottom 2 rosters in the league, but didn't have the benefit of actual draft picks like the Lions. Then they fire him after 1 season that I would call very respectable, which included developing a potential QB of the future. This is the [expletive] people talk about with the NFLs "diversity". Black coaches typically get horsefeathers jobs, short leashes and few second chances (at 66 he's done being a HC).

Ideally, he wouldn't deal with Fields too much. Hire a good OC and let them run the offense and stay out of the way/lead the rest of the team.

Yea either guy from the Browns would certainly be an interesting signal. I feel like the Emery hire had shades of McCaskey wanting to embrace analytics, but was like when the Cubs hired that Kaplan guy, just a super rudimentary and basic understanding of what analytics even was. There was that thing about Emery conducting a study of QB draft picks for instance. Like probably one guy with a subscription to pro football references pro database and excel. Then they never really revisited it with Pace where they've had an analytics department of 1. The Browns are just going at it to an extreme degree. I think I read they're the first team to try and do the same thing PFF does, grade every player from every team for every play. Which is kind of crazy. It would be super interesting if McCaskey were to go with Mensah. There would definitely be a big fan push back. And it would signal Polian's role in this whole thing was really more organizational/administrative in nature rather than pushing a org agenda/identity. Yeah, I put Adofo-Mensah more on the younger ones they have consulting (Campbell, Wade). I think Polian is good to have around as a guy who's run a team. He's likely going to boost up the Colts guys and any older/experienced candidates he may have worked with. But Campbell and Wade are likely the ones that have insight to the hot analytic driven candidates like the Browns guys.

Most people have no clue on these things. Like someone mentioned, we can see and somewhat quantify what a coach on the field has done. But with GM candidates, name recognition goes a long way. Ed Dodds is a name we've heard the last couple offseasons. He has interviewed for a couple jobs (Detroit last year for one), so he's probably the most familiar name out there, except for maybe Rick Smith and he's been away from the game for a few years. So people (myself included) are probably latching on to the names they know.

Yeah, Dodds seems to have that mentality that meatballs love, but he's actually good at his job and based on the organizations he's been involved with, I'd assume he uses a modernized approach. Somewhat related, ESPN did a survey on NFL analytics that is a good read (IMO). Also shows why I really like Adofo-Mensah, and I think he's a strong sleeper for the Bears GM job. https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32338821/2021-nfl-analytics-survey-most-least-analytically-inclined-teams-future-gm-candidates-more

I've seen somebody say, just yesterday, that the Bears need to stop trying to play like they play in a dome and run the ball and play D because the field is so bad. Like really? They play the damn Packers every year who's field is in a random neighborhood, 200 miles away from Chicago and is somehow 60 degrees colder on a normal basis, and they throw the ball all over the freaking stadium.

1) Dodds 2) Khan 3) Smith 4) Adofo-Mensah 5) Schoen 1) Flores 2) Hackett 3) Eberflus 4) Leftwich 5) Daboll

OMG. Dalton and Taysom my top two. Baker Mayfield is somehow more dead on than Roethlisberger.

Good. I want to win at least one of these 2 national TV games (if not both!) since the last one we played in (i think) we got blown out. NBA TV count? Because I think the Knicks was the last one IIRC