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Do you have any idea what Giles stood to make in arbitration? If the Padres would have offered it, he surely would have accepted and made at least 13m in 2006. I'd venture to guess closer to 15m would be what he would have gotten. San Diego lowballed him big time with their initial offer. That's why I don't think they would have offered it. Even at the salary he signed to stay in SD, the Padres have been dumping salary ever since. They traded Eaton who was about to get a decent jump in arbitration. The traded Loretta for a back up catcher. They let Ramon Hernandez walk. Instead of attempting to get David Wells back, they are looking at cheaper options like Pedro Astacio or Dewon Brazelton. To come to my conclusion that Giles would have made at least 13m, I compare Giles numbers offensively as very close to Abreu, and he makes 15m. To you and all the others who believe we could have had Giles. Why do you think he didn't test the market at all? Because he wanted out of the SoCal area/SD ball club? For a guy who stood to make as significant a raise as you claim, an d for a player who should have been offered 3/45 :shock: (ridiculous IMO) why did he not test the market one bit? Either his agent is an absolute moron, he's an absolute moron, or he really really wanted to stay in SD and even after getting lowballed so badly, he didn't feel like testing the market. It doesn't make ANY sense, unless he absolutely didn't want out of the place he was.
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Come on goony. If we signed Encarnacion and they signed Jockstrap would you be saying that Encarnacion is better than Jones? Something makes me say no. They both suck and neither should be a starting RF for St. Louis or the Cubs. Encarnacion is not better than Jones, Jones is not better than Encarnacion, they are both equally bad.
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So you wanted a large overbid to get him? 5\75? i assume that no one was offering 3/39. i could be wrong, but that would appear to be a large overbid. I'm pretty sure he could have gotten more years and money from the Blue Jays. Wasn't there a non offical offer of 5 for 55 for giles from toronto or something like that?
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So you wanted a large overbid to get him? 5\75? i assume that no one was offering 3/39. i could be wrong, but that would appear to be a large overbid. Did any other team offer anything? Just curious as to what numbers were thrown out for Giles (yanks and cards)
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I merely threw it out to show you that it makes criticisms of Hendry much easier when you just say: Giles would be a Cub if Hendry offered 3/13, believe it. Believe me, I'm not a fan of Hendry's off season, but I don't believe that we really had any shot at all at Giles. I certainly don't believe 3/13 would have gotten it done, Giles loves SoCal. I thought that was well known. I am more angry with Hendry not making a really strong push for someone like Wilkerson, who we KNEW we had a strong chance it than for Hendry wasting time trying to court someone who was just posturing and wanted to stay in Chicago. Jocketty must be stupid too, for taking Encarnacion and not sniffing giles because they had a hole in RF as well? Correct?
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You would think so according to this site. I think Hendry's had an awful two years though, but I won't go as far as to call him "crappy". I've been very dissappointed with him the last two years.
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Source? I don't suppose you actually have one for it. Giles loves SD, everyone and their mother knows that. Hendry has sucked this off season, but Giles wasn't coming here. No I don't have a source for that either, but it's easy to throw out declarative blanket statements when no proof is needed behind them.
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from Rotoworld This is looking more and more like Prior will be a Cub next year (knock on wood), but I won't feel relief until something concrete is said or done to make it so.
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Other average teams got lucky why can't we! Also despite the .251 avg Rdriguez slugged .530 with 31 HR. His OBP was a below average at .334, but thats certianly better than Jones and most likey Burnitz Also Johnson hit .280 .335 .352 Comparable to what we could expect from Pierre (a little less OBP) Then you throw in Sammy's ridiculous stats and even that OF blows away one of Pierre/Jones/Burnitz The point is an above average outfield does not a World Championship make. Pitching and being 'strong up the middle' seems to be the championship rhetoric of the past 5-10 years. Good point, but even with Prior your rotation is still pretty qustionable after him and Z, by questionable, I mean, can they pull a White Sox or close?(thats what it would likely take) Then you praised the IF, but if we are gonna be "strong up the middle" it will mean Perez, not Walker. Still a good IF, but Perez hurts it a lot. Depends on Wood. IF you have Z, Prior, and Wood pitch 200+, 200+, 180+ innings, the Cubs make the playoffs. This years rotation, yet again, hinges on Wood being healthy. IF he responds from that surgery the way Carpenter did, goodbye to the rest of the NL Central.
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I hope this happens = Prior a Cub.
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badger1679666666 replied to CubsWin22's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
Unfortunately, no matter how hard I wish that you were Jim Hendry, you're not. I have a bad feeling he's panicking because of losing out on Furcal, and is going to do something so stupid, it's going to go down in the annals of Cubs history like Brock/Broglio. This will end up being on the Worst Trades Ever list. Someone go do something to Hendry please so he's incapacitated for the next 3 months. Just give me the crappy cubs team as is right now. I'll take it I swear I won't complain. -
It's really wierd, because I like him alot too, but it seems that very few people other than NSBB.com is interested in him. IT doesn't seem like very many MLB teams are all that interested in Walker.
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Exactly Badger. That's what X box is for. THanks for the "goal is to win" speech.....I did not realize. Far to often the Cubs have been the team with 0-1-2 runs. You have to be able to score some runs too. And what was I thinking? Enjoy a lineup of Lee, Ramirez, and Tejajda? How dare I. X-box? Ok..at least now I have an idea of the age group Im dealing with. I don't own an x-box, so with your assumptions, I now know who I'm dealing with. You were the one who posted about having fun, and keeping you in front of the TV for hours. I didn't make that ridiculous post. Give me boring winning ALL DAY LONG please. I suppose you can enjoy Lee, Ramirez, and Tejada and instead of scoring 0, 1, 2, and 3 runs a game and losing we can score 5, 6, 7 runs a game and still lose. It will be much more exciting to watch on TV afterall.
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I'd like to go back to what a Cards' fan pointed out earlier in the discussion. If Prior qualified with enough innings at this point, he would rank 6th among active pitchers in ERA. Sixth! How on earth is that not dominant enough for you? I think I saw many posts go by that said they wouldnt trade Prior for anyone.....certainly no other pitcher. My point was that he needs to be the pitching stud of the next decade to live up to expectations. I wouldnt pretend to be the stats guy that many around here are......but if he's sixth....that means there are at least 5 better. Right? I'm sure age and many other things need to be factored in.......but he has a lot to prove. From a lot of the sentiment around here you would think that he has proved it already. Is it that unreasonable to be somewhat skeptical as to whether or not he can live up to expectations? I'd say that his numbers in 2003 at age 22 proved what he can do. It proved what he could do at age 22 in 2003. If the 2003 Prior is whats in the future...you dont trade him for anyone. Of course none of us know....but I don't see how people can be so sure that his future greatness is inevitable. It is possible that his 2003 performance will not happen again. I think its fair to say that we all hope that we will get more than just one year or occasional glimpses of greatness? I wouldnt trade him for another pticher. THe only reason I'd even think about it...is because we need offense....and a lineup of Lee, Ramirez, Tejada.....is something I would really enjoying watching. Granted.....might be a mistake.....but that lineup would keep me in front of my TV many hours at a time. I don't think the object is to keep you in front of the TV many hours at a time, or creating something that you would really enjoy watching. I think the goal is to create a team that wins. And if every single game ALL year was a 1-0, 2-1, 2-0, 3-2, 3-1, or 3-0 game, and we won 95 of them, and you were bored out of your mind, and didn't have fun watching them or spending hours in front of your tv, sign me up for an eternity of your boredom.
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I wonder if he'll make it. :wink: I'm predicting a 90% Yes vote on him.
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Jesus man, you're killing me.
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I posted a Sports Illustrated article earlier today that essentially said that. They got their info from the Baltimore Sun. thats the same article no?
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If the Orioles valued Prior as much as the people on this board, they would have accepted the trade as soon as Hendry offered it. Assuming that Hendry actually offered it. I can't think of a better set of lyrics than are in your sig, to define the antithesis of this offeseason until this point. And this whole Prior/Tejada crap. Maybe Hendry will hear the song and realize that he's focusing on the wrong part.
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clemens
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It's the exact same article in the Baltimoresun from this morning. I panicked for a second too.
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Sanders to the Royals
badger1679666666 replied to B's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
I didn't think he was lefty, and Hendry was obsessed with getting a lefty even if he's as good as the kid cut from junior baseball. -
For the love of my sanity, How the hell is prior a "considerable health risk"? Why don't you come over to my house, I'll take a bat, swing as hard as I can, and hit you right on the elbow, and then i'll question you're toughness as you cry like a girl. Take it easy, chief. You're right it was a little over the top, but I wasn't calling him a girl. Merely questioning his toughness if I nailed him square on the elbow with a baseball bat. (Like when prior got nailed on his elbow by the combacker) I can't stand people who call prior injury prone. He's got bad-luck, but he's not injury prone.
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For the love of my sanity, How the hell is prior a "considerable health risk"? Why don't you come over to my house, I'll take a bat, swing as hard as I can, and hit you right on the elbow, and then i'll question you're toughness as you cry like a girl.
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Quick Mark, slam your hand in a car door.
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You know, you're REALLY not making my evening any better. If I wake up tommorrow and this deal is done, I'm going to break something with a baseball bat.