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You guys are so full of bravado right now it's ridiculous. The red kool-aid is flowing through the streets. You guys are a juggernaut and the Cubs are barely hanging on by their nails because teams are rolling over and others are turning bad just in time to play them. It's just a matter of time before they fall to the new murderer's row. Or not.

I'm pretty encouraged by this, though. I think it's more likely Gorz can maintain success than a guy like Joel Pineiro.

As I said in the GT, tonight could well have been a mirage, but this is a guy who had a fairly solid 200 inning season in 2007. If Tom ends up being close to that pitcher again, Hendry made a damned good trade. Of course being a flyball pitcher at PNC helped (and will hurt at Wrigley), but he's not bad for what amounts to a throw in. Well, Lilly has managed to do pretty well as a flyball pitcher. He should be ok. Except Ted strikes out more guys, has a better k/bb and allows fewer baserunners.

As I said in the GT, tonight could well have been a mirage, but this is a guy who had a fairly solid 200 inning season in 2007. If Tom ends up being close to that pitcher again, Hendry made a damned good trade. Of course being a flyball pitcher at PNC helped (and will hurt at Wrigley), but he's not bad for what amounts to a throw in.

Thanks for the input Don't worry. He just got lucky on that one. No, the Cubs get lucky and play teams that roll over and die. The Cards have pixie dust. Keep your BS straight. Exactly. The Cubs have been the luckiest team this 2nd half, I just hope this luck continues........ Well we have to be now that the Cards have the new murderer's row. (someone at GRB actually said that)

Thanks for the input Don't worry. He just got lucky on that one. No, the Cubs get lucky and play teams that roll over and die. The Cards have pixie dust. Keep your BS straight.

He can be as superhuman as he wants as long as he's sitting on his couch in October.

What? Teams just roll over and die for us, didn't you hear?

This is a very pleasant surprise. However this is also the same guy who had a very solid 200ip/3.88 ERA season in 2007, so it may not be a mirage.

I mentioned this fact a couple of days ago. My ideal situation would be Holliday is superman for his stay in St. Louis, but the Cards miss the playoffs, and Holliday goes to a team like the Yankees or the Red Sox (where they would get two low picks, at most for Holliday, and neither player would be better then Brett Wallace). But who knows what will happen. I think the Texas teams could be dark horses. How about a Cruz/Hamilton/Holliday OF in Arlington? Yikes. The Rangers have money coming off the books, and could make a run at Halladay as well. The Rangers may have money coming off the books, but didnt they also need MLB to help them financially this year? If they did, I hadn't heard. They seemed willing to take on Halladay's contract, so they must not be hurting too much. I'm not familiar with the Rangers' financial situation other than their current payroll and past spending habits, so I may be way off here.

Since we're talking about outrageous ideas, that is less outrageous than putting Fox at second, which is truly, truly outrageous.

I mentioned this fact a couple of days ago. My ideal situation would be Holliday is superman for his stay in St. Louis, but the Cards miss the playoffs, and Holliday goes to a team like the Yankees or the Red Sox (where they would get two low picks, at most for Holliday, and neither player would be better then Brett Wallace). But who knows what will happen. I think the Texas teams could be dark horses. How about a Cruz/Hamilton/Holliday OF in Arlington? Yikes. The Rangers have money coming off the books, and could make a run at Halladay as well.

This brings to mind an image of Dusty with a whip or crop. Now we're slavin'!

If Holliday keeps hitting like this, he's going to price himself out of STL. A few days ago I would have given the Cards a 90% chance of re-signing him. Now I'd call it 50/50, and dropping. I didn't foresee him doing this well.

WTF. 1 out in the ninth, the power goes out for a sec, I reboot and the Cubs have lost. Wow.

IDK if it has been mentioned yet, but the Marlins announcer's call of the Lee HR in the 10th was very gratifying.

LOL at Cards fans saying they "needed" this game. It's the best team in baseball and still July fools, be glad you won the series.

It shows a real ignorance of baseball history if you think that someone like Cobb had anything to do with continued segregation in the game. Cobb, for all his bigotry off the field, actually tried to get a negro league catcher that he liked onto the Tigers by trying to disguise him as a Cuban. He wanted to win and that's all he cared about on the field. He also used to go to Detroit Stars games all the time and hang out in the dugout to see what he could learn from them. Direct those complaints toward Cap Anson (who set the segregation precedent) and Judge Landis (who continued the segregation) and you'd have a valid argument that I might agree with. and yes i'm talking about ty cobb again, har har, hee hee I wasn't singling Cobb out, and it shows real ignorance in general to think a virulently racist man would keep his hate separate from his profession. I'm sure you can excavate a few obscure anecdotes to try and prove the contrary, but Cobb and his ilk (of which Cap Anson and Kennesaw Mountain Landis were prime figures) are one of the major reasons for segregation. It's one thing to want a use someone (or someones), but it is entirely another to allow them equal footing and equal share. If there is one thing that is certain, it is that the establishment, influential players and executives alike, did not want a fully integrated MLB. But my argument was a more general one, and my point was that all this hand wringing over PED use from "purists" with a blinding sense of nostalgia is hypocritical at best, seeing as their heroes padded their HOF stats in a time where competition was at a much lower level and the game was rife with injustice. And we can dispense with the notion that only on-field performance is the true measure of a HOF, since the writers (and in particular the veterans committee) have proven time and again that they are an irrational and fickle bunch. That's not even touching the fact that there are HOF'ers that would never have been selected on the basis of their performance, but were on their reputations. The baseball HOF is hardly a paragon of integrity, yet there are no shortage of those feigning baseball piety who want to be the new gatekeepers. And have no delusions - there will be several PED users who make it - we just won't know. Hell, there already may be. The real injustice is that those who may be more deserving will be excluded because of selective leaks.

Priorities? It's the BASEBALL Hall of Fame. Being a womanizer, a racist, a drunk, or having various other behavioral issues doesn't have any effect on what happens between the lines. If not being a douche was a prerequisite to getting into the HOF, you'd have about 20 guys in there. Well, I think it could be argued that scum like Cobb, Slaughter and others being so influential within the game probably had a direct impact on the exclusion of blacks from the game for so long. And being the case, it would have had an effect on what happened between the lines. And unintentionally would have helped themselves by promoting an all-white league, which would have kept the talent pool relatively shallow. Of course that isn't a direct (or even intentional) form of cheating like juicing, but if we're going to condemn players for taking part in an institutional problem like PED abuse, let's apply that logic to the institutional problem that was the racism of MLB. Furthermore, if we're going to celebrate the accomplishments of men like Jackie Robinson, let's condemn the actions of the men who made it so difficult for them. I mean, fair's fair. And guys like Cobb weren't simply douchebags, but pimples on humanity's collective arse.

Probably hiding in his cataclysm-proof bunker from the fallout from this historically bad trade. In his defense at the time there were grumblings it was gonna be a deal involving Jackson for Grabow who the Pirates were asking top prospects form other organizations for. True, but I'm pretty sure he would have said the same sort of thing regardless of who was in the rumors. The guy just has an irrational hatred of Jim Hendry, as well as the gift of hyperbole.

Probably hiding in his cataclysm-proof bunker from the fallout from this historically bad trade.

He would have if not for the wind.

Inferiority complex. Even though we havent won a WS in eternity, other teams fans are jealous as hell about the tradition and atmosphere that comes with the Cubs. That's kind of it. Sarcasm, or are you agreeing? Kind of agreeing, I agree on the atmosphere part, its cool and sorta the tradition in a way. But that's about it. Really not jealous at all. I think it has more to do with the fact that despite being mostly bad for a long time, the Cubs have much bigger fanbase and draw much more media attention than any of the other Midwestern teams. I can understand that.

Regardless of what happens tonight, I think you guys are toast w/o another front line starter. I think theyre toast with anything short of Roy Halladay. Jarod Washburn, Doug Davis, or Jon Garland are not going to fix that mess of a rotation. Pretty much.