This is wrong. While I don't think the Lakers have a serious chance to win a title this year or make the NBA finals, they're absolutely competitive this year in the West and I will be ticked, barring injury like last year, if they don't win a playoff series. This team was 23-11 last year at one point and was doing fine for a little while even after Lamar Odom got hurt. Even when he came back he was never completely healthy. They are a much better team this year with Bynum playing more minutes (and subsequently, Kwame Brown playing less before he got hurt) and Jordan Farmar playing instead of Smush Parker. This team has a win at Phoenix (by 21 points), vs. Utah, at Houston, vs. Detroit, at Indiana (by 20 points), home and road wins vs Denver, a win vs. Golden State, and a win vs. San Antonio (albeit without Duncan but it's still a win). They're 17-10 while playing one of the tougher schedules in the league. They also have the third best point differential in the West at +5.0 (behind Phoenix at +5.2 and San Antonio at +6.7). Only Detroit at +9.1 and Boston at +13.9 have better differentials in the East. Hollinger has them at No. 3 overall behind Boston and Detroit (which I'll admit is a higher than they should be) and Sagarin has them at No. 7 overall and No. 4 in the West (behind Phoenix, SA, and Dallas). Right now the Lakers are tied for the No. 5 seed in the West and would face either Dallas or Denver in the first round. I know they would be Denver in a 7 game series and think they could beat Dallas as well. I also think they could give Phoenix a tough series and definitely could win it if they play their best. San Antonio, not so much as long as they have Duncan healthy. If they don't have Duncan, that becomes a series the Lakers can win. I really believe that the Lakers, if healthy, are the third best team in the West. Yeah, I read that and was blown away by how wrong it was. To say they have no chance is to have ignored everything they've done this year through 1/3 of the season. And the only trade talk I'm hearing around the Lakers now is possibly packaging Farmar, a second player, and pick(s) for Jason Kidd. In any case, the Lakers a) were already a much better team than their record from last year showed, and b) are aleady significantly improved just from the development of Bynum and Farmar and the absence of Smush Parker. As for Kobe's attitude toward the team, I think he really likes hs team as it stands, but he's still perturbed toward management for essentially deceiving him. Continued winning will make a huge difference to that end, and with the schedule for this week (Phoenix, Utah, Boston) they'll certainly be tested. The only teams in the West I would say are probably better than the Lakers are San Antonio, Phoenix, and possibly Dallas. LA has pretty much played right with Houston and Utah the last two seasons, and they're better now than they've been since then. They're better than Denver and close to New Orleans. Portland may be the X-factor. In any case, I could easily see the Lakers finishing with a 3/4 seed, but also with a 6/7 seed. 3 teams better than the Lakers = no chance for them in the West. Sure they're playing better now, but that doesn't really say much about what will happen in the Spring. We'll see. I wasn't saying they aren't playing well now. We can touch base in May and see if they were real challengers or not. I don't think they will be, regardless of their obviously better early season performance. As far as beating teams like Phoenix and SA in the early part of the season, this also means little as veteran contending teams often conserve energy for the 2nd half/playoffs.