Lovie did not build the Bears from scratch. By the time he was brought on in 2004, Urlacher, Brown, Brown, Briggs and Tillman were all on the team. The only core piece brought in under Lovie was Tommie Harris, and he's a basket case who cannot be trusted. You can give him credit for putting it together, but the Bears had the makings of a dominant defense before Lovie was brought in. Yep...and before that it was as recently as 2002 that we had Washington and Traylor in the middle, and everyone was talking about was that Bears D as good as the 85 Bears as we made a playoff run (and promptly got squished by Philly). Everytime the D is good, that comparison happens and I hate it. EDIT: Omg...Olin was on the 2001 team? He's been with the Bears since 98? I didn't realize...wow. His best years are definitely in the rear view. Yes. He's been there forever. He's clearly not anywhere near the player he was. And for Olin to be skidding the ball along the ground on *ANY* shotgun snap is absolutely unacceptable. That's to say nothing about the fact that he gets owned on nearly every running play.