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Everything posted by dew1679666265
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$5 million in 2012 is cheaper than $5 million now. Yeah, deferring the money is a good thing. It gives us more flexibility now and we should have more money available next year.
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Pena, Webb, Davis and O'Day is a pretty solid offseason, considering our budget constraints.
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You think he'd get near a $1 million raise? Even if he got $2 mil, that's a decent value for a guy like Marshall. And generally I agree on no longterm contracts, but Marshall may be a bit different. He's a reliever not because he's not a good pitcher (like most relievers are), but because he doesn't have the stamina to get past 150 innings in a year. Ability isn't the question with him like it is with most relievers. He'll be going on 30 by then, though, so I wouldn't want a big money extension for sure.
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Tennessee/North Carolina ought to be an interesting game. The Vols have been much better over the past month, though against inferior competition, while Butch Davis has proven again that he's a fantastic coach by getting his team to overachieve after losing some of their best players.
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Red Sox sign Carl Crawford
dew1679666265 replied to BCVM22's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
That's entirely possible. It's really just a formality, though, because there's probably less than a 0% chance they don't extend him eventually. -
My bad. I looked at Cot's saying he was making 950K and neglected to realize that was this past year's salary. Even still, I have trouble believing a reliever who doesn't have saves will go above $1.5 mil or so, that's still pretty cheap if he can be a 2 WAR player again.
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That's my concern as well, since we'd then have to replace Marshall in the pen. Maybe do the Colvin/Marshall for Garza trade and then the Chirinos/Dolis for Davis/O'Day trade? It swaps quality relievers (Marshall for O'Day) while adding Garza to the rotation. I'm still not sure I'd do it from a value perspective, but that would be a way to keep the ML team fully stocked.
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I would too Marshall's really good, but I couldn't blame Hendry for trading away two players who very well might be at their peak value. I'm torn on the trade. Relievers are volatile, but Marshall is a good enough pitcher that he could be one of the few who doesn't fluctuate season to season. I'd struggle to pull the trigger on a potentially dominant reliever for a #3-4 starter. But, he's just a reliever. He's also still making less than a million dollars and won't have save numbers or anything to artificially boost that salary up.
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Interesting stat: 2010 WAR Garza – 1.8 Marshall – 2.2 Garza's been worth a lot more almost every year, but that jumped out at me.
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For what it's worth, a slight take from Bruce Miles on the Garza talks:
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Red Sox sign Carl Crawford
dew1679666265 replied to BCVM22's topic in MLB Draft, International Signings, Amateur Baseball
They may have something in place, but word was at the time that the trade had fallen through because they couldn't get an extension done. Then the Cubs upped their offer and, because of that, the Red Sox went through with the trade without the extension in place. Determine how accurate you feel that is, I guess. -
I wasn't so much saying they shouldn't trade him, just that the rumored deal from the Cubs doesn't seem to be selling high.
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Titans/Colts is usually a really good game, but I have a feeling tonight's game is going to be a crapfest. Both teams have been playing terribly and it'll either be a 3-0 game with impotent offenses or a 30-0 Colt blowout win. If the Titans don't win out, I predict Fisher is out after the year. He may be anyway, but missing the playoffs after the Vince saga will almost certainly do him in.
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I'd pretty happily take Albert back in Nashville. He's still probably the best defensive lineman in the game when he tries and the key is to pander to him a bit. Keep him happy and he'll perform – that's what Fisher and Washburn understood and Shanahan doesn't.
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As long as Dallas has a football team, Ed Werder will have a reason to be employed.
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In those previous years, he's made trades, though, and most of those trades haven't seen us overpay. In fact, Hendry's been pretty good at getting good value in trades (Gorz, Nomar, Lee, Aramis, Harden, etc). If there's one thing I trust Hendry to do well as a GM, it's making trades. Unless he gets truly enamored with a player like he did with Pierre. I'm just hoping that doesn't happen here.
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Maybe they realize the year to year volitility of middle relievers and are trying to maximize his value. They're not getting a ton of value, though. A 27-year-old catcher who was in AA last year and a nice relief pitcher prospect isn't an exciting haul. Since he's still pretty cheap, I'd rather keep O'Day and see if he can continue to pitch well.
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I strongly doubt the Cubs have another 1 yr 10 million dollar card to play this winter. We're only paying Pena $5 mil this year, so that may open up some more room for $5-10 mil for Webb this year.
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Garza is most likely a very minimal upgrade over Wells, though. We wouldn't be dealing Wells for a guy who could potentially be a top end starter. We'd be trading him for a year younger, slightly better version of him who costs 10x what Wells does. The upgrade isn't worth it when the upgrade is minimal at best.
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That's possible, though I'd bet it's Levine's source using the term "top prospects" and Levine is reiterating that. If that's the case, it could be anywhere from HJ Lee to Ryan Flaherty to Darwin Barney.
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That's part of my concern. There's a very real possibility we can only have one of the two, and if given the choice I'd rather take the guy with elite potential over the guy with limited upside over what he's already done when the price is similar. If we can get both, I'd be more open to it, but the potential prospects we'd give up still scares me.
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That's part of my concern. There's a very real possibility we can only have one of the two, and if given the choice I'd rather take the guy with elite potential over the guy with limited upside over what he's already done when the price is similar. If we can get both, I'd be more open to it, but the potential prospects we'd give up still scares me.
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Yeah, I meant to mention the DH issue earlier. That's the biggest reason I think his numbers will improve coming to the Cubs. However, given the huge discrepancy between his ERA and xFIP, I'm thinking his success has been largely dependent on Tampa's defensive acumen. The Cubs haven't been as good defensively - and that likely won't change much in the near term with DeWitt at 2B and Castro at SS - so that will likely negatively affect his actual numbers. I just don't see him being much better than what Wells has been the past couple of years (though I think he'll be better) and I wouldn't pay $5 million and give up good prospects for Wells. Especially if it keeps us from taking a gamble on a guy like Webb or because we make that trade, we don't make the O'Day trade and, thus, sign Jason Frasor.
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I only wouldn't want to see Colvin included because I think other teams will rate his skillset higher and give us a better return for him. What really scared me was that almost immediately it came out that Archer and BJax (I think it was) were not going to be involved. The fact that they felt the need to throw out those names almost immediately makes me concerned they're talking about bigger names than I'd be comfortable with. I could be overeacting, but it concerns me.
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Right, Lee is the most likely though I'd say. If it's Flaherty/Chirinos/Guyer/somebody, I'm fine with the trade. If it's Lee/Chirinos/BJax/somebody, I have no interest at all. It probably won't be either of those and it depends where in the middle it falls. Lee/Colvin/Chirinos/somebody lesser would be ok to me, but I would think we could get more for Colvin from teams that value his skillset.